In addressing point 1) I believe it has to do with purchasing intent in NZ.
i)If you purchase a property with the intention of a quick reno and flip, then you are deemed to be a property trader and the property in question is treated as ‘trading stock’ and income tax is payable.
ii) If you purchase a property with the intention of holding it as a long term buy and hold, then there is no capital gains tax payable.
How you prove what your initial intent is/was, I’m too sure.
I read somewhere that some investors make a stat dec when purchasing stating ‘Property X is purchased for the purpose of a long term rental etc etc’ in order to cover themselves if they change their mind after purchase and the IRD (Tax Office) coming knocking at their door.
What time period constitutes a long term buy and hold and also what happens if the intent changes once purchased, I am unsure of as well.
I 100% agree with Bruce on one thing… About the herd mentality that is going around at present.
My ‘perception’ is that many are currently in a buying frenzy (buying willy nilly), ie a ‘smash, grab and think later’ mentality. On a mission to acquire the ‘elusive’ regional town cash flow positive property.
There really has to be some thought of an exit strategy and a contingency plan for the worst case scenario.
I do believe in buying where-ever the numbers make sense but this must also be counter-balanced by sensible economic data.
For example,does it make sense to buy in regional towns that one has little or no knowledge about, that has downwards trending population growth, high unemployment and not a major industry or employer in sight?
Having a growth strategy (which Bruce is alluding to) working in conjunction with a cashflow strategy seems to me to be the best of both worlds.
P.S. You should all know the fate of lemmings…. Think about it
Haven’t had the pleasure of meeting Barb, but we have chatted. I agree with what you have said.
I just wanted to clarify that my post (if you between the lines)actually had little to do with property locations but EVERYTHING to do with the human spirit and the ability to give freely without any expectations.
I’m not in the slightest bit interested in where other people are purchasing nor am I advocating that anyone should reveal this. I personally am ‘savvy’ enough to farm out new areas; it’s not THAT difficult. So in essence, what I say is not a criticism, but merely an observation.
What I am saying, however is that I DO believe in universal laws and one of them is abundance. I truly do believe that there is more than enough for us all to go around several times.
Human nature however, it appears is dictated by self-preservation and fear.
I did notice that you were kind enough to help people out, so it appears that you have the same beliefs (abundance) as myself.
I read with interest a post last week where many people stated they believed in abundance… whether that’s true or not, only these people know, but what I am saying is that people like Barb and yourself have clearly demonstrated in my mind (for what it’s worth) that not only do you talk abundance, but you walk abundance as well.
I’m heading for Christchurch, so we’re heading in the same direction mid next year (probably earlier), as have still have a number of loose ends to tie up here.
Glad that you’ve had some success over there. If you would like to discuss, please feel free to contact me on [email protected]
I have to agree with you 100%. Perfectly put in a nutshell.
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I read comments, from people that have posted to this thread, in other threads that show people are in for the quick cash out or top dollar and then say they are givers, I don’t think so.
The above comment really grated phlegmatic old me. Smacked of a certain degree of piety.
With the excess of properties currently on the market that you mention; how can you be sure you will get a tenant and how can you be sure that you will get the lower than expected rent that you mentioned?
I guess the question I am asking is that ‘How would you feel and would you be able to manange financially (and how long) with NO tenant in place? ie Are you 100% prepared for the absolute worse case senario and how long can you ride it out?
Dependant on the answer, this should guide you in making your keep/sell decision.