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Hi, Nevilleg
I bought an 2 yr old apartment, settling in mid Nov as well. Had a property inspection by ArchiCentre. It is good to have another pair of experienced eyes to check through the place, just to be sure and for that piece of mind. After all, it is only $440. A tiny expense considering the size of the loan.
All the best.
Daniel LeeHi, Shel
Do not sell unless you really have to, or the place you currently have is not performing well in the currently strong economic market. An outlay of $40 a week to hold a place is cheap considering a dual income status. Once you add in a depreciation schedule and raising rent, your Adelaide place could even become +ve cashflow for you.
This will allow you and your partner to focus on the place in Brisbane.
Worry not the size of the loan, but your ability to bring in the cashflow to service it.
All the best.
Daniel LeeHi, Joel
My partner and I just bought a 2 bedroom apartment 14 kms from Melb CBD ourselves. The apartment was completed in 2005 and is under 2 yrs old. The vendor was asking $325K – 355K and we ended with $331.25K with some conditions. We are going to move into the place, stay for a while to utilise the FHBG and then move out. So, yes, depreciation, CGT and all that did come into mind. However, so is getting out of the rental market.
There will always be things to depreciate in a relatively new apartment, so I would not worry about it too much. Just enjoy the process of becoming a property owner, even if the bank owns most of it.
All the best
Daniel LeeHi, ao
If things are getting a little quiet in the RE market in your area, perhaps it is time to get a move on if you have done your research. Steve did mention in his first book that just a couple of months before the FHBG came into the picture, the RE market got rather quiet is people were waiting for the grant to kick in.
If people are waiting for an increase in the level of certainty or stability, then there must be sellers desperate enough to sell due to the perceived uncertainty, right? My partner and I bought our first PPOR; an 2 yr old apartment in Oakleigh, Melbourne. 2 mins from shops and 10 mins walk from the train station. We researched for a few months, saw the place advertised on RE.com, inspected the place a wk before its official OFI, put in an offer 2 days later, negotiated hard and signed on the contract 4 days after that.
The next day during the first OFI, the RE agent told us someone else offered almost $10K more with no conditions and wanting to sign on that day itself. He apologised and told them the apartment had been sold just a day before.
I definitely agree with a number of the experienced investors in PI.com that there will always be a deal of the week to be found under any economic condition. Do your research to the best of your knowledge and have a good team with you. For a start, I found a decent conveyancing firm and lender. As the Nike ad goes: 'Just do it'
All the best.
Daniel LeeHi, Islandgirl
It is definitely important to figure out what is it you want from RE investing; it is capital growth, earning a cashflow to replace earned income, want to be filthy rich… from there, the types of strategies would tend to be determined by what you want.
My partner and I are finally looking around for our first home, checking out the suburbs to see what we can get. My very close aunt, who is a big time fan of negative gearing, offered to help by putting my name down on a negative geared brand new property. Being RE virgins, we agreed despite doing our minimal Due Diligence and knowing the amount of negative gearing involved, and later realising that having that property did not suit our purpose of RE investing at the first place. Bless my aunt, though. She later told us she wanted the property, so having my name down is a 'just in case I no longer want it'.
So, now we know that when we look at RE, we have to keep in mind that for our personal situation, we are going for property that will help us make money, money that will eventually replace our earned incomes so that we can work because we want to, not because we have to.
Most important to know what you want out of investing, as that will shape your investment thoughts and strategies.
All the best
Daniel LeeBuy now if you can. Anything below 'market' value is better than paying at market value or above.
You have to figure what loan features you would need in accordance with your plans. A 100% offset account would be good as you got some spare cash and plan to use that money in the future.
Regards
Daniel LeeHi,
Could someone provide some answers to my two questions. This would give me a better idea when I go talk to an accountant.
Regards
Daniel LeeHi
This is what I would do.
Have a chat to the vendor on why he / she wants the cooling off period waived. There could be a number of reasons as mentioned, and instead of speculating, just ask. Be open on your side and inform that you are still interest, and will include Pest , Building and Finance clauses.
The vendor could be honest and just say that there is nothing wrong with the property and has other use for the money; then there would be no worries on that. However, if there is some degree of hesitation or you sense something is amiss, throw in the valuation clause as well for good measure.
Regards
Daniel LeeHi, Pizang
My definition of rich. Enough passive income so that I can do the things I want and spend time with loved ones. So, I say a lazy million in the bank and $5M in net worth.
Regards
Daniel LeeHi, Purple
Refer to some of the old threads. There have been a number of discussions on P&I or IO, their pro and cons.
Really depends on what is your investment strategy, if you have one. If not, best to develop a investment strategy first before moving further into IP.
Would also be good to find out the deep-seeded reasons as to why you are investing in RE in the first place.
All the best.
Daniel LeeHi, Steve
I too have been guilty of complaining about the site and not offering solutions. Have not been back to this site for about 3 weeks now and, to my pleasant surprise, it has incorporated a mixture of the appeal of the old site and the speed of the new one.
The new site looks good. Keep it up, Steve and Team.
Regards
Daniel LeeHi, LA Aussie and S.O.G
The two of you have pretty much dominated the conversation so far. You two can keep going at it, but let me chip in my 2 pennies worth.
If you are renting and am saving up to buy a PPOR, put your money into high-interest internet accounts. Have to pay tax on the interest earned though. My partner and I are doing that. We just leave our money in ING. Who really would want to go through the trouble of jumping from one online account to the next every year just to earn the highest interest rate?
If you already have your own PPOR or IP, put everything into a offset account or make extra payments (Depending on what you like, but a 100% offset account is like a high-interest tax free savings account). Like mentioned earlier, the interest from the internet accounts will not be high enough to make a standard home loan rate. Makes a lot of sense to put your spare cash into your loan(s). That is what we will do when we do buy late next year.
That pretty much sums it all up.
Regards
Daniel LeeHi
In my first glance at the new format some weeks back and surfing around for a while, I quickly found myself wanting to go back to the previous format which was more user friendly.
After a few weeks of not going to PI.com and coming back today, I still find wishing the site would go back to its old format, especially when it came to keeping track of read articles. The previous format was good; it only needed to be quicker (a server upgrade would do nicely…)
The number of users and guests have dropped dramatically since the new format came online. The topics have gotten less interesting and is attacting less users and guests, who feel less of a desire to post new and interesting topics, which attracts less users and guests…
A downwards spirial cycle…
Bring down aspects of the previous format, please.
Regards
Daniel LeeHi, guys
Not wanting to enter into the middle of the discussion between Ausprop and Foundation, just seeing if I understand what the two of you are saying.
In my personal view, the actual value of houses would still increase at an inflationary amount, so that $600 billion in true housing value would increase over time, as well as the amount of debt actually needed to maintain that true housing value.
So, if I understand correctly what Foundation is saying, is that in order to maintain or increase the current perceived value of housing that many people are enjoying right now, the level of demand for housing and especially willingness to incur debt to pay for the demand must continue at a much higher than inflation rate.
With the ballooning debt comes increasing interest payments. As the debt and interest payments are growing quicker than the growth of wages, it will come of a point where the amount of wages will not be sufficient to cover interest and debt repayment, after accounting for living expenses.
It is at that time where we got a problem. So, the early signs are now where we see the number of mortgagee and forced sales going up, as the tail end of the borrowers are no longer about to deal with the debt and interest repayments.
The real problem hits when we have a significant percentage of the population going under due to those repayments. The impact then to the society and economy will be enormous…
Of course no one knows when this will happen, or it could already be happen to a small extent. What to do? I am just going to continue renting at the mean time, save my money and then seek out that bargain.
Regards
Daniel Lee [specs]Hi
I think after 9 months of discussion, it looks like there is unlikely to be a crash or a major housing price correction anything soon. just a gradual slow down in the raise of housing prices.
So what is the moral of the story? To me, it is simply to make do what the current situation and just ride the wave the best you can.
Regards
Daniel Lee [specs]Hi
I was thinking of introducing this topic on the forum when I saw the EFM on TT. Looks like Richard T beat me to it…
Was telling my partner that this loans only work on the demand side and would drive prices higher. Now, home buyers have an extra ‘20%’ loan from their ‘equity partner’. Will not be surprised if housing prices start going up.
My rationale on prices going up is in this rough example.
House price: $100k
Home buyer deposit: $10k (Has planned to service loan of $90k)
Equity partner: $20k (20% of house price)Since home buyer was originally able to service a loan of $90k, with help of the ‘equity partner’, they can look at a house that cost around $110-5k instead, or bid more in an auction.
In the end, it does not target one of the main root causes of ski-high housing prices; the supply and building of housing needs to increase and governments need to have better planning of future population growth.
Definitely agree with Foundation, Marc and Grossrealisation that this product has to be used very very carefully.
Regards
Daniel Lee [specs]Hi,
Foudation: Thanks for your insight. Most interesting as usual. Personally, I believe that with the increasing debt domestically, something has got to give. Something like what is happening (or going to happen in the US, maybe? LA Aussie: Any comments?).
In the end, best to do the due diligence (as mentioned by Ausprop), buy a place that requires some simple reno (so that it is cheaper), as close to its last rates notice price as possible (Read that in Anita Bell’s book) and location, location and location.
At the mean time, just save like mad. Personally, I do not intend to pay more than $180k for a 2 bedroom unit inclusive of transaction cost. So, I better work on improving my property knowledge so that I can spot to ‘deal of the week’ when it is time for my partner and I to buy.
Regards
Daniel Lee [specs]Regards
Hi,
Let me just say that I have found Foundation’s and Wealth’s view on the future macro and micro housing pricing most interesting in this thread as well as in others.
Currently, my partner and I are renting and are looking to buy in the later half of next year.
So, Foundation and Wealth-for-Life, what are your personal recommendations on for we and people in general should do (especially those who do believe that a correction is due).
Considering the forecasted views on the inevitable correction in the housing prices?
Would the supply of new housing influence housing prices (Supply versus Demand sustaining current prices?)
Looking to hear from the two of you.
Cheers
Daniel Lee [specs]Hi,
Let me just say that I have found Foundation’s and Wealth’s view on the future macro and micro housing pricing most interesting in this thread as well as in others.
Currently, my partner and I are still renting.
So, Foundation, what is your personal recommendations on what a young couple wanting to get into the property market by next year? Considering the forecasted views on the inevitable correction in the housing prices?
Looking to hear from you.
Cheers
Daniel Lee [specs]Hi,
Let me just say that I have found Foundation’s view on the future macro and micro housing pricing most interest in this thread as well as in others.
Currently, my partner and I are still renting.
So, Foundation, what is your personal recommendations on what a young couple wanting to get into the property market by next year? Considering the forecasted views on the inevitable correction in the housing prices?
Looking to hear from you.
Cheers
Daniel Lee [specs]