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    From the news it said that Japan's having a big fall.
    How is the mining area today?
    Is the property market still doing fine?

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    wow, what can be "something" for the vendor to settle quick?

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    I reckon that I will have more competitors on (2) while I am the only potential buyer on (1).
    Price at 355K is a below average price for (1) . A poorer condition property sold at 356K recently in the negibourhood according to the agent and I believe it so.
    while 370K is an above average for (2), similar older (1 to 5 years old) properties with 3bedrooms are at most ASKING at 320K only.
    I cannot agree more that land price will absolutely go up.
    But I reckon more people are willing to rent (2) and make it a better investment item.
    I am willing to pay 350K for (2) but I forsee it is not going to happen.
    BUt I feel that I can get (1) at 352K.(Vendor should be in a rush to sell)

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    I think both are good to living in. But (2) can be a better investment item after a few years.

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    I think all these are just mind games. Property price will go up when people are not panic any more.

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    I have heard that the government plans to cut 20000 positions. Looks like a rumor but it also makes sense as the government is running out of surplus. And it is certain that the tax income is going to drop tremendously too.

    The hesitation of banks to cut mortgage rate prove  that the banks have not been doing good. The steep cut in interest rate from reserve bank has a positive impact to the markets, however, why we need a steep cut? I don't think the government is trying to make the property price goes up, if it is, the government is overdoing it.

    People said that we are lack of land and houses. Yes, but  imagine in Sydney region (the most crowded region), 6 or less people living in a 200m house with 3 bedrooms and 300m of yard. Such properties can always accommodate more people. A lot of older people even living alone in a big house. Of course, more crowded means lower quality of living. however, mind set gonna change. We have a lot of buffer! (A friend of mine is living in 70/F of an apartment with only 50m area but costs 1 million AUD in Hong Kong. Yes, 70/F, not a typo) While we cannot compare with the extremes, it is very true that we have buffer.

    People scatters and thus public transport don't earn much money.

    I still believe that the land price will go up. All regions should become more crowded. Houses pull down replaced by a few storeys apartment. If you see the figures, people don't make much money on such project. What if the land price doubled or triple? Building companies need to build a larger scale project (say, a 7 storeys building) in order to make money.

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    Let me post table 1 and 2 which contain some hard figures

    table 1 house sales

    period


    Deal count


    land area


    $m


    area per deal


    $per deal


    $/sqm
    Jun08 to Aug08*****36**********18273.00***11.57*****507.58********321370.39***633.1382
    Mar08 to May08*****39**********21449.00***11.89*****549.97********304921.79***554.4291
    Dec07 to Feb08*****32*********20892.00***9.62******652.88*********300656.25****460.5112
    Spe07 to Nov07****38**********21153.00***11.59*****566.66*********304947.37****547.8183
    Jun07 to Aug07*****38*********23420.00***12.43*****616.32*********327113.16****530.7558
    Mar07 to May07*****59*********34220.00***18.36*****580.00*********311139.64****536.4477
    Dec06 to Feb07*****43********25046.00****13.99*****582.47*********325383.72****558.6321
    Nov06(1 mon)*******20*******12051.00*****6.57******602.55*********328500.00****545.183

    table 2 villa and townhouse sales

    period


    Deal count


    land area


    $m


    area per deal


    $per deal



    Jun08 to Aug08*****25************************5.15**********************206118.00**
    Mar08 to May08*****21************************4.15**********************197823.81***
    Dec07 to Feb08*****18***********************3.85***********************213625.00****
    Sep07 to Nov07****24************************5.72***********************238368.72****
    Jun07 to Aug07*****19************************4.22***********************222052.63****
    Mar07 to May07*****22************************4.62***********************210181.82****
    Dec06 to Feb07*****19************************4.62**********************243315.79****
    Nov06(1 mon)*******9************************1.97************************218388.89****

     

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    It is really a good news to me. As I am a first home buyer and I pulled out last week from a deal after found it had serious termite attacked before. I did lost 1600 for the whole process.

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