Great Advice Guys, really appreciate the input :o)

Matt007, you're right this is the Massland model and I have seen the Videos by Mark Rolton – that has sparked my interest.  I first saw idea at a Princeton Development seminar here in Sydney and have heard about a number of other developers doing it also.. I think the idea behind Optioning a Raw Site and Applying for a DA to onsell to a developer is fairly common knowlege, it appeared that Mark Specialised in it however..

I understand what you're saying and when watching the Intro DVD, my BS meter was registered off the charts in some parts :o) I like the overall concept and I think it's important not to get caught up in the marketing hype, I'm in Marketing myself :o)

I absolutely agree with the points you mentioned. I do believe it's necessary to focus on the following things:

1) Look for areas with massive population increases like the Gold Coast, Adelaide and to a lesser extent Melbourne, especially areas where huge infrastructure is being put in place by Large Companies and the State/Federal Government
2) Do the feasiblity study and overcompensate with the figures, minimum 20+ profit +3-5% contingency
3) Establish a very high historical demand for the type of development you are trying to get a DA for
4) Don't enter into anything that you wouldn't happily build yourself if you have the time/money resources

I think all of these are very important to get right, I believe the biggest risk is spending 40-50K on a DA then having the option expire worthless because nobody wants to buy it.

Ultimately it's like anything in life, if you do your homework, over-calculate your risk, under calculate your profit and look at historical evidence you can mitigate your risk to a point where more than 50% of what you try will work

Again I really appreciate all the great advice guys, especially with your first hand Experience Matt007

Nathan Hosking :o)
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Great advice guys, really appreciate the input…. it would mainly be to obtain the contact details of the owners of the property so if the other sites have that info, then game on… which does leave alot free cash to invest into starbucks! :o)

Nathan Hosking

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Thanks for that Terry, I thought that might be the case… I also imagine that there must be a few people around that are doing this to avoid capital gains tax… not as an illegal tax evasion method but a type of way “around the system” I might ring the ato to be cheeky and see if they have any thoughts/policies about this(obviously giving a fake name with inquiries *joke*)….

I have enough in passive income from properties around the place to not have to work, so my aim would be to do it more or less full time which is where I imagine you could run into problems being that it would be my primary source of income in australia.. so maybe i would be taxed on profits at an income tax rate rather than capital gains tax – in any case, you would still be subject to stamp duty (6% in nsw?? with the exception of your first property purchase which is exempt under 500k in sydney metro area i think)

obviously would live in the first property that I buy in sydney for the first 12 months to avoid the issue of paying back the 7k grant… at any rate, I can’t imagine doing more than about 2 a year.. the other way around this is to join with a few other people, once a year – each buy a run down property in their name only, all work together to renovate them all then all share in the profits equally on final sale (any takers? haha)

thanks again terry, very useful information as always from you :o)

CorporateMonkey :o)