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  • Profile photo of CloudbursterCloudburster
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    I think we have ironed it out and ready to take this to the solicitor:

    – Dad adds me to the title of that block of land as tenancy in common with a 25% share. This allows me to obtain a bank loan and build.
    – Upon Dad’s passing, the land without the house and associated infrastructure that I added is valued. I contacted another property valuer who said this was possible.
    – My father’s 75% share would be distributed to my three siblings, however I have the option to buy them out with the portion of inheritance from the other two blocks first.
    – This allows security for my family and a share in property growth for my father and siblings.

    The only issue I see now is in the case that I need or want to leave the block before my father’s passing. Possibly an agreement that Dad will buy the house from me, maybe minus a percentage value? Not really fair he would have to reimburse all my costs.

    Thoughts?

    Profile photo of CloudbursterCloudburster
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    2. Assuming the value of the property after the build would be $700K + $350K (added by you)= $1.05m.

    I have got slightly stuck on this. A property evaluator warned Dad that adding a house onto land does not always increase the price to include the house build cost.

    So say in 10 years time, if I did not build, the land alone is evaluated at $1m. My three brothers and I would receive $250k each (25% share). Now with the situation that I have placed a house on it, that cost me all up $400k (including power, septics, etc), the property is now worth $1.2m. I expect to take my building costs out, so $1.2m – $400k = $800k. My brothers now only get $200k. $50k less thanks to my building project.

    Is what the evaluator suggesting quite likely?

    You could also keep things as is and just build on your dad’s land. You might be $100k short now, but you could possibly borrow from your dad or do a bit of owner building.

    Thanks for the input but I have decided to go through a bank loan if possible to make the situation more fairer for everyone. Furthermore, it looks like we may have to borrow $200k.

    Profile photo of CloudbursterCloudburster
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    Just an update. It looks like we will proceed with the idea of tenancy in common. Good part of this is that I may only have to pay $20 stamp duty as the lot is currently used for primary production and is “intended” to be used after the title is amended.

    We approached a property lawyer who seemed quite knowledgeable but haven’t gone any further than a phone conversation. As much as we would like to sit down with him and have a good yarn about the idea. At $600/hr we are wondering how much we can draw up ourselves. We haven’t made much on the sheep this year so trying to watch every penny although we understand the need for this to be done properly.

    As it would appear the title amendment to be not too difficult. I guess the next step is to get a more definitive price of building a house on the site and ensure there are no other issues there and then look at the best way to get finance for that – through a bank loan or through Dad. Then take all that to the family and ensure everyone is happy before having the will reflect the changes.

    Anyone see any other issues to take into consideration? Also, are there any major tax implications of suddenly acquiring 25% of land? Other than that, we are looking forward to the future although treading lightly.

    Cheers

    Profile photo of CloudbursterCloudburster
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    Thanks John and Dean. My Dad and I have taken in your comments and feel much more enthusiastic about this idea becoming a reality. We like the idea of placing us both on the title. Not sure how this will affect the first home owners grant for building a new home (not that it is a deal breaker). Dad suggested I borrow the $100k to build the house from him and I pay him back, with interest (instead of a bank).

    As the brothers are happy with the basic idea, I guess the next stage is taking this to a professional. Someone who has experience in these types of matters to offer advice and also to have it properly drawn up from a legal side. Would this be a property lawyer?

    Profile photo of CloudbursterCloudburster
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    Thanks for the reply Dean.

    By rights to buy the block do you mean it is placed in my name? I should of made it clear that even if it was, with some type of family loan made for the block, I would still need to obtain a small loan to build the house. I won’t be able to get a bank loan without the property in my name.

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