1. Do commercial properties generally sell for less than residential properties?
It can be higher, lower or the same – it comes down to the specifics of the property, location, availability of commercial within the area.
2. Are loan rates, structure, ease of approval the same?
NO. Generally normal residential lenders will not want to touch any property which is specifically zoned commercial. There are some lenders which can potentially look at it as residential, but it’s the exception than the rule. Commercial loans generally take longer to be approved + settle, have higher interest rates and larger deposit requirements.
3. If I choose to convert it to a residential property at a later date, is this relatively straightforward? Or is it unlikely to be allowed? What are things that are considered in this instance?
Dependent on the councils specific development plan. Best course of action is to speak with the council who will be able to let you know how easy/difficult it will be. If it’s within a commercial specific area it makes it far more unlikely to be altered other than remaining on a residential permitted use with a commercial title.
4. Is this purchase a terrible idea?
Depends! If you like the property and there’s potential to get it for a below market price due to the underlying ‘issues’ which will limit the buyer pool, it may very well be a good deal. Just go in with your eyes open with the purchase and ensure you price in the commercial zoning issue comparative to other residential property in the area.
It would depend on the type of property – is it focused more towards owner occupiers or investors? The market there isn’t moving very strongly as there’s continual supply, so I would want to go more towards keeping the tenant on – perhaps on periodic so they can vacate if an owner occupier wants to move in.
In terms of refinancing to three separate loans – this will not remove an cross collateralisation because fundamentally the security is only ONE title. The only way you can separate each unit is if each unit has its own title, at which point each loan can be untangled to tie up with only one property.
Indeed – we’ve already got a great amount of registrations of investors for the webinar. :)
Just a quick heads up – even if you cannot make the events time, if you register we will be sending a recording of the entire webcast to all registrations the next day so you can still get the information on how the Adelaide property market is trending.
Scott has touched on an important point that a lot of investors who want to buy property in their SMSF don’t factor in/don’t realise they need to factor in – that when they retire there are minimum draw down requirements which get increasingly higher the older you reach. What this effectively means that unless you keep a reasonable portion of your SMSF in liquid assets, you can be forced to sell your properties to meet this requirement during your retirement.
With careful structuring from your financial adviser you can manage this requirement so you don’t have to be forced to sell what may be a great asset or something that you want to be passed down to the next generation.
This is an area we work with clients often, to ensure their retirements meet their long term plans, rather than get unwanted surprises.
This reply was modified 8 years ago by Corey Batt.
Let us know how you go. Will be interesting to see what your plan is from here – are you thinking of still sitting on the sidelines to see if the market pulls back?
What’s the plan/what do you think will drive you to make a purchase if it just flat lines/rises without a significant decline?
No, it will still have the exact same policy issues.
In terms of your colleagues – who knows. They can either have strong incomes, always making purchases together, it may just be their family household and not other extended family etc.
The only way you’re going to improve each sides borrowing position is one party buys out the other, or sell the asset and from this point only buy solely in individual names instead across multiple households.
Changing it to any other form of joint structure will result in the same serviceability issues – which is exactly why most investment savvy brokers advise HEAVILY against it. This just leaves everyone in a situation where no one can really progress further due to the drag from joint ownership.
Transferring to other entities/ownership will be a CGT/stamp duty trigger – it will be costly so you would need good reason to do this.
Assuming a valuation now of $225,000 as per your guesstimate, you would have *accessible* equity of circa $17.5k which could be released if your lender will allow it (if the lender allows 90% cashouts/topups).
This is insufficient for another purchase @ 200k, so you would need to mix your savings in to get a deposit over the line.
Being a near on 95% LVR loan when you purchased, you would have paid significant LMI. Which lender was this with? To avoid paying this all over again (and eating away what equity you do have), you would need to stick with your current lender for the existing property. For the second property it would be dependent on your exact details – the only way you’re going to get useful advice with this is by engaging an investment focused finance strategist. They should be able to assess whether you have the capacity, what structure is appropriate and how to get to the position of buying your next property.
In terms of ownership structure it all depends on the individual – there isn’t a one set path as every persons situation is unique. I would say for all the investor clients I work with, the vast majority purchase in their personal names, with a small amount buying in a trust and almost none purchasing in a company structure.
As jess mentioned, the overall development should increase in value than it’s previous amount, so you shouldn’t have any issues. What this means if most division its just a case of untying the securities so they’re not cross collateralised and adjusting the LVR on each so it balances out.
If your value decreases overall from developing, you’re doing an unprofitable development and losing money, so avoid!
even if I did manage to get one, the property would be in a distressed condition.
Properties in distressed condition are our favourites!
We buy them, fix them up, refinance at a profit and rent out. Everyone is happy and full of joy.
Overall, lots of fun
Hope this helps?
Cheers,Ethan
Ditto, reno/refinance strategies targeting distressed properties is a great option which can result in slightly higher yields, ongoing equity to cover future deposits etc. We used this strategy personally to build our portfolio and it’s performed well.
I’d shy away from student accomodation. Investing in property is about: Generating a growing asset base and rental income. Student accomodation gives you a specialised security which has negligible if any capital growth – which is what gives it that perception of strong yields. In reality its just the case that the value of the property has lost value in real terms. When you could this with the fact that every year of inflation means your return is dwindling, that ‘high’ yield isn’t all that great.
They also in general will require larger deposits and a large number of lenders won’t touch them at all.
There’s millions of properties in Australia – so there’s no need to sacrifice in some parts of your investment. Stick to A-grade property which ticks all the boxes to get the best long term outcomes for your needs.
In terms of the rest of the thread- when starting out I think it’s best to start with your goal and work you way backwards. This helps give you a strong framework of what you actually need in an investment, what yields you can accept, what growth etc. I’ve previously written a bit about this here: http://www.precisionfunding.com.au/planning-your-investment-strategy/
Too many variables – particular ones which are subjective. Terry has hit the nail on the head. :)
One is easy to knock out though – you’re not likely going to have sufficient deposit for a commercial shop purchase for 450k out of those scenarios if you only have 100k available.
You’ll find limited info on this here – it’s mostly Aust based property investment talk here. In terms of lending, she will need to engage with a US based lender, Australian based banks will not lend on non Australian security (property). Most US banks aren’t too keen on non US citizens borrowing there for property either, so traditionally investors have either had to pay cash OR go to hard money lenders (private lenders) who charge 6%+ rates. I have heard of a few cases where some lenders are now considering it there, but haven’t seen any specific details which are reliable enough.
I’ll leave the tax questions to one of the taxperts.
CBA shouldn’t assess the debt at 7.25% for the existing US debt, but instead 25 years P&I (or 30 years if P&I from day 1) @ 20% above the prevailing interest rate on the associated debt.
In any case banks aren’t quite sure what they want these days in terms of expats/OS borrowers – more so non residents.
Exactly – Colin has hit it on the head. If you’re looking for a cheap rate go to your standard broker. If you’re serious about building a portfolio to achieve your long term goals, use an investor specific broker with the track record and knowledge to help you get where you want to go.