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    Hi Lisa’s

    Thanks for the post – it is good to see real people finding real deals.
    I also appreciate your generosity in taking some time to share the info you have on this deal.
    Cheers, Jo-anne

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    Hi andymitchell,

    I understand that moving cities may not be a very enticing option for you and your expanding family but if you do find yourself leaning towards this as a solution I have a house in Canberra that I am completing renovations on that I could rent to you for $250 (rather than the market rate of $300+) – maybe less depending on what else we could trade (like pool cleaning etc). I would love to be able to give it to you for free but I gotta eat and pay the mortgage too hey :)

    I hope you don’t have to sell and that you find a solution that really works for you – sorry I cannot add to the terrific suggestions posted so far. I am sure you will be back on top of everything real soon – so please don’t slash your wrists :)

    All the best to you and your family, just email me if you find the renal a thing you want to talk more about.

    Cheers, Jo-anne

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    Hi Grant7,
    I have a copy of Wealth Guardian (a terrific resource explaining financial structuring and the different types of structures we can use including the advantages and disadvantages – all in easy to understand terms; You may want to investigate it further).

    What my understanding of what it says about Discretionary Trusts (and a Family Trust is a type of Discretionary Trust) is this :

    A trust has a Trustee (can be one or more but must be separate legal entities (so an individual or a company)) – this is the entity that makes the decisions and is responsible for the day to day running of the trust.

    A trust also has beneficiaries – who receive a share of trust profits (can be an individual, partnership, another trust, company). Beneficiaries must be named in the Trust Deed. The distribution (share or dispersement) a beneficiary receives is declared by the Trustee(s)

    The Trustee(s) doesn’t own the trust assets it controls them, and may also be a beneficiary.

    If, in securing a loan, the lender requires a guarantee, it will be the Trustee(s) that would make that guarantee. The guarantee would have nothing to do with the beneficiary unless they were also a trustee of that trust.

    In short, one person can wear two hats – one as trustee and one as beneficiary, so my take on your situation is that you could have your son on your trust deed as a beneficiary but not as a trustee and his future borrowing ought not to be compromised by the trust’s borrowing.

    I know you have checked with several sources already, perhaps armed with this information you can recheck with those advice providers – or have a more thorough read of Wealth Guardian (I don’t get commissions :) I just found it a really great resource).

    Good luck.
    Cheers, Jo-anne

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    Hi Giddo,

    Just a quick thought, and you would need to check it out further to be sure, but I have attended several of the Masterclass sessions and have heard a number of time s a warning about factoring depreciation into your profit equation.
    Because, if you claim a depreciation deduction and then sell at some future time and make a profit – which I figure is what you are aiming for, then the property has not in fact depreciated it has appreciated and therefore the loss you have previously claimed will have to be repaid.
    I may have over simplified things and you should definately check with your accountant but I think this is the gist of things.
    Cheers, Jo-anne

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