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- goldies wrote:Bought in Hebersham, 4 bedroom house, single lock up garage and seperate carport also. 580sqm block. Bought it for $235k, spent $6k on a cosmetic upgrade… rents out for $380 a week, got a tenant in day after settlement….
$380 a week is top dollar. How did you manage that?
Terryw wrote:I wouldn't buy in a country town. There are plenty of cheap houses in Sydney and these would probably have more growth potential in CG and rental increases. Try Campbelltown and Mt Duritt areas – my mate just sold a 3 bedroom house in Whalen, near Mt Duritt for $220,000 – think it was renting for close to $300 pw.Totally agree. $220 is cheap to sell though, must have needed work. Many are over $260K now (not that I'd pay that).
evernat wrote:Thanks guys but Im just not willing to spend my money in areas like Campbelltown and Mt Duritt areas.That's OK. More for me.
But why would you buy in a country town and "hope" for capital growth when you can buy in Sydney. As Terry said- plenty under $300K with 6% yield. I do a quick reno and get 7.5% yield on mine plus an instant $30K increase in equity. So even if it stays flat for years I can sell and still make a profit as it's costing me nothing to hold.
Everyone has different investment strategies though. Buy what you are comfortable with.
Wagga Wagga pop now 62,700. Projected for 2027- 77,000. Not an alarming growth. 1% pa.
So is your house worth more than the median?
If it's worth $350K that's only a $20K increase so only an extra $16K to borrow which won't go far.
You may need to wait a while longer unless it's worth more than the median.
Do you think Nowra will outperform Sydney? Or do you think you have a better chance of buying under market value there?
In other words- why Nowra?
Same Jamie- why Queanbeyan?
I'm still looking in Sydney for 2011.
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Sorry Wolfe I read as " but until it is a good couple mil…." meaning when you have a good couple of mill you can start to give back.
My mistake.
As Scott said. But answering your question- It depends on the area and what the expectations are by buyers and renters.
We recently bought a house with a small bathroom and separate toilet. Normally I wouldn't combine them for a house but by combining them we can add a freestanding shower (instead of over the bath) and this outweighs the advantage of the separate toilet.
Unless there is some gain by combining them, don't.
Paint never goes astray. Clean/replace carpet or polish the floors, tidy the yard. These are cheap things that make a difference.
For a bit more money update the kitchen and bathroom. Some people replace kitchen doors and benchtops but decent kitchens aren't expensive and I just replace them. 2 days in and out (unless walls are a problem. Bathrooms are more difficult and more costly. If the colour isn't bad just putting in a new vanity and mirror can make a difference.
Often the price a house sells for is about perception. If it looks ugly most people won't buy it. So make it look pretty.
Goldies you don't need to spend big $$ to get decent increases. You can buy a decent kitchen for $5K and tidy a bathroom, paint, carpet etc all for less than $10K which can increase the property by $30K+. Aim a little higher. It's doable.
Scott No Mates wrote:yes it is possible to buy, refurb & sell at a profit in sydney but transaction costs are high. In your case it'll be around $50k + holding costs. You might be well served finding a deceased estate in poor condition.Where did you get the $50K from. He didn't even say how much the property costs.
Assuming it was $800K holding costs would only be $50K if it took a year. But they are not paying rent while they are doing it so it's considerably less.It's doable of course (lots doing it already) but make sure you take into account ALL costs to determine if it's viable for you. You can make big bucks with more expensive property but the outgoings are a lot higher.
As mentioned don't let people tell you you are too young.
Nathan Birch (he's 25 years old now) bought his first house at 18. He used a credit card to get his first deposit. He now owns 30 properties. Self made millionaire. Amazing young man. No-one helped him, he just used his initiative and went for it. He's got a book coming out soon. Can't wait to read it.
Utube videos of some of his purchases.
http://www.google.com.au/#q=nathan+birch&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1016&bih=541&prmd=ivnsofd&source=univ&tbs=vid:1&tbo=u&ei=An0STcy9A8XIcc3tgKsK&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=5&ved=0CEgQqwQwBA&fp=19436dfea8718869I have used a buyers agent twice. I have found good properties myself but needed a break from spending all weekend (and nights) looking on the internet, ringing agents and going to opens.
Now everything they presented to me wasn't wonderful but I did get 2 under market places. Yes they were on the internet but I would have overlooked them due to poor marketing.
One the BA had negotiated a 12% discount (on market value). Doesn't sound like much but it was more than 6 times their fee.
I was not particularly interested in auctions (I could do those myself) BUT the BA did get one that was so badly advertised that no-one else turned up. The BA got a call telling him to be there as no-one else would be there and there wasn't. BARGAIN!!! There have been a few like that.
This is how they do it. Networking and time on the floor. Who has that time? Me sometimes but not enough to purchase often. Plus while I'm renovating I don't have time to search for the next one. It's good to know someone is looking so if a bargain comes up I can grab it with very little effort on my behalf.
So basically I do my own research and buy stuff myself but the BA looks too and rings me if something comes up. Best of both worlds.
Yes basic $1 = $3. Some say $2 but that's too low for me.
But you need to do the numbers for each case. Sometimes you can buy way below market and just spend very little and make a lot.
If doing it as a job you need to be more careful with your figures, especially if you are going to sell in 12 months as there's not a lot of room for error.So do your figures before even placing an offer.
Factor in ALL your costs:- purchase, stamp duty, solicitors, bank fees, interest while doing the reno, reno costs.
Then your estimated sell price (be conservative). Also add any out of pocket expenses for the time held (if rent doesn't cover costs), rates etc.
The profit is your wages. If that's an amount you are happy with for the amount of time you spent doing it then go for it. If we didn't both have good jobs I'd do it. Well we do do it but not to sell. If we needed the cash though I'd do one to sell. Maybe when we retire.DWolfe wrote:Maybe after people make a lot of money then they start to ask how they can give some back/share it around, but until it is a good couple mil……Maybe- If you have to wait until you make a good couple of mil before you give to charity I'm willing to bet you never do.
If you have money to spare to invest you have money to give to those less fortunate than yourself. Pity everyone if only millionaires helped charities.
Thanks.
I went to a few auctions there. Bought in North Albury. Lovely street, lots of private owners. As you said, you need to know the streets. I know Hibiscus. Looked at a couple there. One agent said they won't manage it if I buy there so looked elsewhere.Parts of East Albury are scary (around Eastern Circuit). When there are wardrobes and lounges on the verandah I keep driving.
Be careful of termites too. I've seen a few in Albury.
Agree with above. Ditch him. He obviously just wants you to take out the max loan through him.
The only way the LOC is an issue is if you mix it with personal use. If it is solely for investment then it is tax deductable. What makes it tax deductable is the USE of the money.
Just go to the bank and tell them you want to access your equity for deposit and legals on an IP. AND you want a separate 80% loan on the IP.
lbluedento How do you think the UNI moving out to Thurgoona will impact Central Albury prices. Good/bad?
As you said Albury has been flat for a while and vacancy rates aren't that low. How has the new development areas affected existing housing?
Population growth is projected to be stable for the next 10 years but there seems to be a lot of building going on (and huge Bunnings stores and new Aldi's). Do they know something we don't?Any chance you have the addresses for the ones passed in? Just curious as to which area they were in. $80K was cheap.
Mario everyone is different. Some people have more time than money. Others have more money than time. So that's why investing is different for everyone. You do it the way that suits you. There is no right or wrong way.
As you said the numbers need to work. Bottom line. I have a friend who buys similar houses to me but he pays people to do the work. Sure it costs a bit more but he earns a lot more than me at his job (long hours like yourself) and spending days/weeks on a reno is not financially wise. I have time so can do it easily. Liking the reno process has a lot to do with it too. Life is too short to waste doing things you don't like.
Good luck with your journey.
We do a lot at nights and weekends (besides our day jobs), We rip everything out ourselves. We paint, do kitchen tiling, put vanity, laundry etc in, rip out walls.
Builder friend helps with new walls.After bathroom is prepared we pay for bathroom to be waterproofed and tiled (then we put in vanity etc) and kitchen installed and electrical (of course) and to get floor sanded.
Really unless you are doing lots structural stuff I don't see how it runs into months.
We love doing it. To pay tradies to do everything would more than double the cost. We figure saving $15-20K is worth 3-4 weeks of our lives. Saving $15K on each reno adds up over time. So on 4 reno's thats $60-80K that you are ahead and $60-80K you are not paying interest on.
Marie123 wrote:I have another question – as a newbie and all to this game of buying and negotiation – how do you ask the sales agent "why" the landlord is selling? Is there any good way, apart from just coming out and asking the question, ect?Cheers
MarieYou can just ask. You may not get an honest answer though. Ask if they want a quick settlement. That is good info to have. They may have bought elsewhere and you can negotiate around that. The more info you have the better your chances for negotiation.