. I really wish the whole IP process was straight forward but when I read all the differing opinions in these forums, it is anything but… no wonder so many people don't even bother! Thanks again.
haha. You are right it's anything but straight forward.
Everyone has the way "they" do it. Don't fall into the trap of trying to listen to everybody. You won't find a property that fits ALL the things. I made that mistake too. Kept passing up properties because so and so said it should be 8% yield and so and so said I should have $50K equity in it. etc. I was looking for properties that had it all. And passed up a few good deals I might add.
Listen to it all then decide what suits YOU. Good luck with it. It can be frustrating but very rewarding to (and not just financially).
Hi, sounds like you are VERY eager to start. Good on you. Wish I wasn't a procrastinator. Took me many years before I bought.
I'm not a fan of LMI but then I've never had an equity problem so maybe things would be different if I was in your position.
But with 95% lends you need to be mindful of property price changes over time. If your LVR is low you can ride out any dips in the market. With a 95% lend banks may want to recall loans if the property drops in price.
Also with buying off the plan be aware that "projected" values and rents are just that. Look at values of similar properties that are a few years old in the area. What are they worth? What do they rent for? Remember if you need a 95% lend and the value is 5% under the estimate your up the creek without a paddle unless you have the extra 5% cash.
Personally seeing as you have the capacity to save quickly. I'd be saving a bit then buying at a lower LVR. Or buying properties that you can value add so bring the LVR down.
Food for thought.
How well do you know the areas where you are buying? Do you know what a good deal looks like? I was surprised at you high first offer for IP1. That would have been exactly what they wanted (middle of the given ranges) so no bargain there. May be better to take your time and buy something that is good value. I believe in making your money on the way in. Not buying negatively geared properties and "hoping" they go up.
Property for $130,000, with your deposit loan of about $95,000. Interest only that would be $555 a month in interest (7% IR). Currently receiving $210 a week in rent, $910 a month. So a gross profit of $355 a month. If you put it all towards paying down the interest and principal, would take around 15 years to pay it off, as I said before, without really putting much of your own money into it. .
If you are going to quote figures at least do it right.
In your example you would have to put in $41,000. ($130K-$95K + stamp duty + solicitors fees). So you are forgoing interest (if left in a term deposit) of $190pm.
Your incoming is $910pm minus (PM fees $70 + rates $100 + insurance $40) = $700pm (assuming you have no maintenance, problems etc).
So $700 – $555 = $145pm. So with the interest you are forgoing by spending your $41K you are about even. And that's if your loan is interest only. That won't pay it off. This would still be a goer assuming there is capital gains to be had. The problem with some regional properties is that CG is low. so you are no further ahead 15 years down the track.
While yield is very important, without CG you are not moving ahead.
Sorry to duplicate- didn't read the rest of the posts.
If $600 makes the difference between you buying and not buying a property you are in the wrong game.
What about the $7000 stamp duty plus solicitors costs, bank charges. Have you taken these into account?
The increased levies would be worth considering though. Admin funds usually run close to the mark. No use having lots of excess funds sitting around. What about the sinking fund. How much is in that. That's the one that you want a bit of money in.
. In terms of removing it (and I'm sure this goes against every rule of kitchen removal), rip out the doors and smash the remaining carcus with a sledge hammer – the bench top will probably just come off…..wear goggles. I find it to be a therapeutic experience Cheers Jamie
Haha. That's what I was going to say.
That's what we do. Break it up as much as possible as it packs flatter. Throw it in a skip bin. I wonder how much they charge for ripping it out. Our kitchen mob charges $500 for install. So deduct kitchen price + $500 to see how much extra it's costing.
Yes. I've been to a few. I go if the topic interests me.
There is no pressure. They will do a blueprint (look at your position and outline where you should go next and how to achieve that) for free. Of course you can use their buyers agent but there's no push or obligation.
They did one for me a few years ago and I just started looking and buying using that strategy.
It's a great way to meet people also. Networking is the way to get ahead. Lots of people pay thousands for networking meetings (mentors). http://www.rightpropertygroup.com.au/homepage Check the website to see what the topic is for next fortnight and see if it is for you. Might see you there. Wear a pink hat. Just kidding.
Met him years ago and was not impressed, old tired and no soul.
IMHO
Victor? He's far from old or tired and I think he has a great soul. Well in my opinion of course.
I have been to a few of their meetings and got inspired enough to buy 5 properties in the last 18 months. Most are CF neutral and increased equity to the point where I am refinancing shortly to pull out equity and buy more.
For $10 a meeting you can't lose really. People pay thousands for networking opportunities. And you meet some lovely people there.
Why not go along and mae up your own mind. At worst you'll be down $10 and 2 hours of your life.
Sounds like you are off to a good start but it can be frustrating when you are ready to move forward but feel constricted by others.
Have you looked at Right Group? They have meetings every Tuesday fortnight (tonight) at 7pm at Rydges Parramatta. Cost is only $10. Actually their topic tonight is what you need.
Yes this is a plug but an unbiased one. I am not affiliated with them. Value for money at $10. Get there early to network. Great way to meet likeminded people. From their Email-
Itching to get started in property investing, and don't know how to get together a deposit?
Victor Kumar and Steve Waters will share the various strategies in getting together a deposit to either get started or to add to an existing portfolio, strategies that they themselves have implemented, and seen other investors implement to get ahead.
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If I buy a house fo $200 k, renovate it and then sell it for $250k that means I will be paying ~ 25k in CGT however if i used the 50K profit as a downpayment on another house does that mean I pay no tax on it?
You don't pay $25K CGT. That's the amount that is added to your income (minus purchase costs, reno costs etc).
You could always sell and take the year off work (or 6 months to lessen your income for that year).
Hi was considering it but unfortunately made plans for that weekend just before getting the dates. If I can change it I will send you a message as I'd love to go.
to be honest… just wait 7-10 years for the property to double in value and keep renting it out until then Well those are my thoughts anyway. Buy and hold (then leverage)
Cheers Jason
IF you can afford it. 2.5-3% is WAY too low for me to hold on and hope for CG.
That's one hell of a loss EVERY year. You would want to get som,e serious CG to compensate for that. With ibnterest rates of 7% you're losing 4% + rates + insurance + agent fees + + + (EVERY year)
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