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- Cathy.G wrote:I am going to an open inspection for a house listed as mortgagee in possession. The house will be auctioned with no reserve in 2 weeks.
I seriously doubt that. They aren't going to give it away.Cathy.G wrote:The pictures on realestate.com.au look like the place is probably structurally ok- build mid 1990's. Someone has begun a renovation but not completed it- many things half done which make the place not really tenantable in its current state. I spoke to the agent to try and get some information before the open but he was quite unhelpful. This could work in my favour if he treats all inquirers the same way. My plan is to go to the open, try and get some more information from the agent and look at other properties in the area to get a feel for selling prices of properties not needing renovation. If it seems like the property could be a possibility then I will ask a builder to come and look at it with me to get an idea of how much it ill cost to fix-up. Do you have any tips or traps from your experience of such sales? Thanks CathyYes you definitely need to do that. Sometimes unrenovated properties aren't that cheap (especially by the time you do all the work)
You need more than a feel. You need to know what the house will be worth after reno. You need to know how much it will cost to renovate (allow going over budget) and also factor in interest while it's empty. Work out how long the reno will take. Time is money.
After you get all this info work backwards.Final price minus reno cost minus profit needed. = the max you should pay.
I would want at least 3X your cost of reno. So if the reno is $10K you need at least $30K profit. This varies depending on how much work you do yourself.So have your max price ready and go to auction. If it's passed in negotiate from there. They will usually lower their expectations if it's passed in. They like to sell on the day. Otherwise it can draw out.
tips- above. Traps- don't pay more than your estimated price.
good luck.Depends- Did they offer a great price? Do you need a quick sale?
If yes and yes negotiate. If not tell them it's a 35 year old property in good condition. Like it or lump it.
Or 7 tiles = $200. New sink $200. Give them $400 off. What the heck, give them $1,000. haha.
They are in for a hard time if they are trying to buy something with no problems. This will not even happen with a new house.
Play their bluff. They have to find a house before Dec 31st if they want the grant. Tell them you have had plenty of interest and you aren't in a hurry.mg310 wrote:Hi all,We have bought a "fixer-upper" about three hours from our home. We have a number of items on the to-do list:
-painting (inside and out)
-carpets
-kitchen flooring
-kitchen cabinets
-bathroom re-tiling
-new fence
-internal doors
-window coverings
etcAnyhow, as the jobs are varied, and we live a distance away, I was curious whether anyone had used some sort of local project manager to coordinate all the tradies. We are a little daunted at the moment about how we go about meeting tradies/overseeing their work when we live so far away.
Any comments/advice on this sort of situation?
Many thanks
mgI;m surprised that you didn't think of this before buying. I have a friend who renovates places away from where he lives. He just gets local tradies to do each job (not for me).
So- in order get tradies in (pick up keys from RE)
-bathroom re-tiling (do you mean new bathroom?) start this ASAP as it takes the longest.
-kitchen cabinets (replace?paint?)
-internal doors (replace?)
-painting (inside and out)
-carpets. Ring someone to quote. Easy when everything is ready they come out and lay it.
-kitchen flooring ? same as carpet mob?
-new fence. anytime. Get quotes. They can come anytime as it doesn't affect anything else.
-window coverings. Ring, they will go out and quote- when ready get them to fit them (takes 3 weeks. Get the quote early.I would try to be there for a day or 2 to get quotes. Go over the weekend and Friday or Monday. Do some of the basic cleaning/clearing etc yourself. This can save heaps of money.
We did a reno in Albury. Just went for a week. But had to go back a few weeks later for a weekend.
Tread VERY carefully. When there is money to be made there are always those out there to make a quick buck. There are some (a lot) of companies that are so overwhelmed with clients they are buying anything.
A friend of mine bought off a "reputable" company and had a property empty for 12 months.I have a friend over there buying now and would only trust her to buy from. But I'm not sure if it's for me. I may go over and have a look in a few months. She's bought 8 and retired from her job and set up a buyers agency there. She's a very experienced property investor.
She's buying under market (for these times) and rents withing 30 days.A typical property is $50K so with refub and costs comes up at $70K. Net return is about $9Kpa assuming you buy with cash. Of course there are cheaper ones but not in desirable areas. There are certain areas she won't touch. But sees other companies buying them. If you're on the other side of the globe you don't know the difference.
bumskins wrote:$384,000 + ~$13,000 Stamp Duty + $44,000 Reno + ~$50,000 Interest + ~$15,000 Sales costs + $Rates + $Insurance + $your time= $506,000+How much rent did you get over the period? Does seem to be a close shave.
This was double posted and in the other thread I asked the same question but got no reply. I agree it looks great but I can't see any profit in it.
bjsaust wrote:My general feeling is there's no rush. Whatever's going to happen in the market, I find any kind of significant rise in the next two years to be very unlikely.What!! You believe ALL of Australia will have no significant rise in the next 2 years? Won't happen. Guarantee it.
Sure some areas will under perform. I believe some may go backwards. But some areas will make gains (and some great ones at that).
And you can always make your money on the way in. That way you don't need top gamble on CG.
jonesy06 wrote:Hey Jamie No I haven't done anything except met a sales person. They charge $100 to have a look at their properties.hahaha. That's hilarious.
Don't believe anything this person tells you. I was taught not to listen to people that have a vested interest in your purchase. The salesperson is paid by commission. So they "REALLY' want you to buy something from them.
Run Forest Run!!!!
Get hubby to salary sacrifice a good amount of his wages into super.
Or take a long leave without pay.
Shape wrote:If your aware your loan is crossed and your fine with that- then it's ok…it only becomes a problem when you DONT KNOW. Regards MichaelI wouldn't say it "ONLY" becomes a problem if you don't know. There can be MANY problems EVEN if you know it's crossed.
Eg one property goes down in value. That then affects both properties.
I just renegotiated my loans with CBA. They bought out the paperwork with all properties listed on all the loans. Rep assured me they weren't crossed. LOL. Ripped them up. Start again. Finally all stand alone.
With your new loan you can negotiate 1% discount = 6.81% ATM.
With reference to using different banks. Most people recommend capping your loans with one bank at 1-1.2mill.
This "apparently" keeps you under the radar.
So once you hit that figure go to another bank. I also find it keeps them on their toes a bit. I'm mainly with 2 banks. And they ring me and ask do I want to bring my money over from the other. "can I do a deal for you". hahaThe only way to avoid asbestos is to buy newer properties. Are you seeing millions of empty pre 1980 houses around? No!!!! so people buy them, live in them, renovate them.
Sure it may cost a little more if/when you renovate but other than that what's the problem?
All of my properties are pre 1980.
Lendwise wrote:Conveyancer for me….they are cheaper and there only expertise is conveyancing. Solicitors generally have this field as an add on to their existing business and with my experience are not as savvy as a conveyancer. I was in the mortgage broking field and always experienced problems and delays with solicitors, quite simply because they didn't fully understand or care about the settlement of property. My opinion….LendwiseI disagree. While there may be some solicitors that cover all areas there are ones that specialise in property.
I only use a solicitor. As mentioned if there are problems you need to get a solicitor. As there can be many problems with contract law I'd not take the risk for a few hundred dollars.
Can someone give me a recent price for a conveyancer? General fee (without searches etc
ChristinaM wrote:Catalyst wrote:I have never made an offer with conditions.Did you buy at auctions or private sale? and how many transactions have you done?
Both but you can't have conditions at auction anyway (well I did negotiate 5% deposit prior to auction once).
I've signed 16? pulled out of a couple in the cooling off.
I have never made an offer with conditions.
Hi, I responded to your other post then found this.
I was taught not to take advice from people who will gain from my purchase. Sounds like "they" have a lot to gain from your purchase so would find it very difficult to be objective.That's why they do the whole package so you get no other feedback.
Tread VERY carefully. Personally I'd bow out until you had time to do some due diligence.
You are from Wollongong? How much do you know about Coomera and the Qld market?
There are many groups pushing Coomera and they have been for many years.
Positive Real Estate was calling it Boomera Coomera 5 years ago. Still waiting to see the boom.hakanoa wrote:This is my first property investment.Not sure how it stacks up with duplex that are 5 years old in the same area. Not sure what you mean by paying a premium because its new. There are a few similiar duplexes to ours built in the same estate, well they are the same plan and still building more properties.
This is basic stuff you should check before you buy anything. If similar places to yours but 5 years older are at a lower price then yours will be comparable in, say 5 years time. So if they are $50K cheaper than yours then that means yours has to have a gain of at least $50K before you start making a profit (put simply). Get on realestate.com and check NOW!
Also prices go up (partly) because of supply and demand. If there are heaps like yours and more being built then supply exceeds demand. This is why beachfront properties demand a premium (you can't build more).hakanoa wrote:Ive only just started to look into it after talking with someone that is property saavy — and she put me on to this forum.Type this into Google for several threads on Coomera site:somersoft.com "coomera"
Or just look at http://www.somersoft.com/forums/
hakanoa wrote:We have purchased through I guess a third party — see my other post. Got a lot to learn.Yep. Third party means that's an extra party making a profit out of you.
I was going to send you a personal message (PM) but you haven't added an Email.
I use Terry Scheer for most of mine.
The yield leaves a bit to be desired but being new you will get good depreciation so won't cost as much to hold. Have you worked out how much it will cost you to hold? ie out of pocket expenses. About $230 a week loss before tax (not counting depreciation).
How does the price compare to duplexes in the same area that are, say 5 years old? ie are you paying a premium because it's new? Because in 5 years time there won't be much difference between yours and the ones that are 5 years old now. How many properties similar to yours in the area? Are they still building more? Yours won't be attractive to buyers in 5 years time if they are building new ones then.
I wouldn't buy it but your goals may be different to mine. I like a better yield and under market price. Buying new will not be under market price.
Why are you doing your due diligence AFTER you've signed the contract?You are really worrying too much about nothing.
Say the loan is $30,000. If you borrow the money and you renovate for 2 months you are not able to claim $350.
So you are missing out on $105.$30K X 7% = $21000pa. so 2 months interest = $350. So assuming 30% tax rate = $105.
Chillax!!!! Change your name. You are becoming a self fulfilling prophecy.
Doing nothing and retiring on the pension seems like a big risk to me.
I'll stick to the risks of property investment. At worst I'll end up on the pension, At best I'll be travelling the world (doing that now but still working some).
Ultra Property wrote:Marie123 wrote:I am getting 5.2% but it is a fixed loan, which we got 2 years ago. We don't have as much debt though – only $270k!5.2% is really good. Is this with a bank or non lender?
They said they got it 2 years ago which was average then. Friends of mine are on 4.99% from then, about to come off.