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    No. It doesn't matter who's name the loan is in, it's who owns it.

    She can carry the losses forward (not sure how many years). That will help if she plans on returning to work later.

    Congrats on your new baby.

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    It's not a requirement to go to auction but when they do there's no dispute about "fair price". Which is why they DO go to auction.

    Why do you want to pay market price? If you are going to auction don't show your hand before.

    If you don't want to bid at auction, wait until after. It will be listed with a price then.

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    I'm going to the Reno Kings one tomorrow. I do hope it's not a waste of time.
     
    I do reno's myself already and thought I might get some useful info on how to take it to the next step. I currently buy, reno, hold but would like to go part time at work and do at least one buy, reno sell a year.
    I will report back tomorrow night. I'll be saying something to them if it's crap though. Just realised it's only 4 hours and $97 for 2 so not cheap.

     I find the Think and Grow Rich is OK for beginners. There s the pressure sell but there are interesting speakers and you get books and DVD's for free (without having to climb over people to get them). They give them out as you enter after the breaks (to everyone).

    The Property show that was in Sydney last year (and 2010) were good. Listen to the speakers in the theatres.

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    Thank you. Have downloaded it on my iPad- will read it this afternoon.

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    Fiends of mine have a few IP's under water.

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    Could just be that there was a new development in the area. These are usually higher in price than the standard. Sell a few of those and it looks like p[rices have risen. Same as when an old area has lots of sales of properties that have been renovated. Looks like a price hike but it doesn't show the money spent on upgrading the houses..

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    I've done a few renos and one fire damaged one (not structural).
     
    I'd suggest starting with a basic reno first. eg paint, carpet, maybe new vanity, toilet, maybe even a new kitchen before tackling a fire damaged property.

    Having some basic experience under your belt gives you the experience to deal with the extra issues associated with fire damage (water, smoke etc).

    I definately would not recommend a fire damaged house with structural issues unless you have had experience in renovations.
    There's also the issue of insurance and getting a loan. It's not that easy. As soon as the bank sees "fire damaged" on the contract there are issues. Not impossible but as a newby???

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    If you could get a 90% loan you'd need

    10% deposit                      $25,000
    Stamp duty (that's for NSW) $8,000
    solicitor                              $2,000
    LMI                                    $6,000 (at a guess)

     So $41,000 minimum plus reno costs.  You can do a lot for $10,000.  So absolute minimum $50K

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    Only the people on the title can claim (not your whole family). Also if going overseas, for example, if you have a holiday while your there you only claim the % of the trip that was associated with managing the property.
    There isn't a limit but the ATO will question if it's unreasonable.

    When we did our reno we were there everyday for a months 30 days of tolls and fuel.
    After that you would only need to go 1-2 times a year unless you purchased a dud.

    You cannot claim when looking for property. Only after you've purchased something.

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    Terryw wrote:
    hi Catalyst

    Yes, renovation and selling would be good. But I took the term flipping to mean just buy and sell straight away – possibly without even settling on the property.

    OK. Yes in that case I agree.

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    As Goldies said- there are good and bad parts.

    You really need to be on the ground looking. You can't see things on the internet.
    You need to be aware of the difference in the suburbs. One house may look cheap compared to another but it's suburb and even street will make a difference. Look at the number of private owners VS housing commission houses in the street. 

    The hype with investors at the moment will drive prices up (in my opinion). The high yields are very attractive to investors. And as yields go up renters will see value in buying also.

    There's money to be had, you just need to do your homework. It's not just a matter of buying any house and making money.

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    Terryw wrote:
    Good in theory, but virtually impossible in practice.

    I disagree. My last 3 reno's would have profited me $20-25K after tax (paying the full CGT) if I had sold them.  Not a bad profit for 4 weeks work (after my day job). You do need to buy under market and be pretty hands on but it's doable. We are accumulating and don't need the cash yet but we are looking into it more this year as we transition into retirement.

    I figure we can do 1-2 little ones or 1 big one a year and with our CF we won't need to work.

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    latormor wrote:
    And what do you guys think of units vs houses in Mt Mt Druitt / Blacktown as investment options ?

    I have both in the Blacktown LGA.  For me it's never a case of unit VS house. It's about the numbers.

    My villa and unit in Blacktown were under market and I didn't need to do anything to them. Put the rent up to market value and they were both CF neutral. Same tenants were in and stayed in. They have gone up in value. Easy money.

    My houses I bought because they needed lots of work. I bought them under market and did a reno. This gave me instant equity and they were CF neutral to + straight away.

    If you buy a unit VS house and do no work on either the unit will give you a better gross yield but you need to factor in strata. But in a house you have extra insurance and maintenance. Units are less work than houses from a maintenance perspective(in my experience anyway).
    Depends what your strategy is and if it fits with your portfolio. I'm not adverse to either.I have half villa/units to houses.

    The houses go down land goes up theory doesn't always hold true.
    My tiny 1 bed unit has seen 50% growth in the last 4 years. It's about demand and supply. Just because something doesn't have a large land content it doesn't mean it won't go up with the rest of the suburb.

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    Yeah and there's a reason they have 11 and will always have them available for purchase. Because those that have them know they are going nowhere and want to offload them.

    They have hardly gone up ion the last 10 years and the rent quotes is a gross rental figure. Take out all the costs and it's not an attractive yield.

    You have been told (on other forums) by at least a dozen experienced investors to walk (sorry RUN) away.

    Get over it and look for something that will make you money.

    Or not- If you know better- buy one but don't come wingeing when it doesn't go well.

    Reminjds me of a person 2 years ago that asked for opinions on an OTP in Parramatta. EVERYONe said it was overpriced but she bought it. Then came on wingeing that what the sellers told her wasn't true.

    You can lead a duck to water. . . .

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    Shape wrote:
    My comments are directed more towards St marys, Willmot, Dharruk and those surrounding areas ( Blacktown is ok)

    St Mary's Willmot and Dharruk ARE in Blacktown LGA. Mt Druitt subburbs make up a VERY large percentage of the Blacktrown LGA.

    Shape wrote:
    Experts been saying the area is going to grow for the last 5 years, but most place will grow in 5 years time ( how much depends on your expectation) …nothing new. Recently there has been more hype in the media because it's one of the few places that actually HAVEN'T gone up, compared to it's counter part surrounding suburbs …so hence rental yield is a lot more attractive, doesn’t mean it will have CG though. Reason why some BA sells this area so heavily is because it makes the client " happy" as they can see instant return…recommending an area with higher chance of good CG is not something a lot of clients will be happy with as they can see the return especially if it's costing them quite a bit to hold . —-

    When I read about areas to invest in all the experts say to target areas where surrounding suburbs have gone up- buy the one nearby that hasn't gone up yet. Depends what the client is loooking for. Some people buy for yield, others buy for CG. Depends where you and your portfolio arte positioned at the time.

    Shape wrote:
     Do i know the blacktown area? i wont say im a expert…but as an active investor of both CG and Rental yield property in Sydney + i live 20-30 min away from Western Sydney i can say; im ok buying in black town. But i personally would stay area from Willmot, Dharruk and those surrounding areas unless you have the patience to wait it out + aren't scared of a few "nasty" tenants. Don’t get me wrong; great place for cash flow, but poor CG. Your statement about "When population grows people rent then ultimately buy in the same area." – can apply to MOST suburb…if im going to invest into a CG area; i want to see CG within 3-5 years. If it's for Rental yield, then i would want a way to continue to ramp up the rent- ie dual occupancy + purchase below the market value…i expect "some" CG , like 2-3% per year + give or take 1-2 years with no growth i would be happy with. Any more i'll take it as a bonus. Regards Michael

    As I said- Mt Druitt IS in Blacktown area. I disagree with CG going nowhere. My properties have had CG and yield is great. As with any area that has a low vacancy rate, rents are increasing. Of course I want CG as well (I want it all LOL).
    There are "nasty" tenants everywhere, not just Mt Druitt. It comes down to tenant selection. 
    I personally like the area and has been kind to me.

    As for no CG- ever hear of a guy called Nathan Birch (google him). He made his first million in buying property in Mt Druitt (after the 1999-2003 boom).

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    I agree with the above posters. I wasted MANY hours doing the financial planner run around. In the end ALL just tried pushing me into the product they were getting commissions from. Even when one who said he was into property investing- still no joy.

    Getting the structure right is important. As is having a goal.

    Networking is also a great way to learn what others are doing.

    Get yourself a good, property savvy accountant to ensure you are claiming everything you are entitled to.

    Ask questions as you go. There's always something else to learn. Have you read any property books? There are many great ones.

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    Shape wrote:
    If your buying in St mary an Blacktown, you won't be waiting for CG, because it may be a long wait…just remember who you will be off loading your property too? other investor; These area are purely for investors who are after good cash flow, say at 6-7% yield…but if you hold the property long enough due to rental increase the yield will be 8-9% in 3 years time. Much better yield if some renovation are done, GF ( depending on the area and street) etc… Regards Michael

    Really? So you disagree with the many experts who are predicting high CG in the Blacktown LGA?

    Do you know the Blacktown area at all?  Sure investors are moving to the area but there are still predominantly OO. Blacktown has one of the highest predicted population growth in Sydney (if not Australia). When population grows people rent then ultimately buy in the same area.

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    1) Go with recommendations.    I recommend http://www.depreciator.com.au     Used many times. Competitive price, great service.

    2) For building depreciation I'm guessing

    3)CGT is worked out on buy costs/sell costs (not market value) so can't see the point. It may have been worthwhile getting one when it changed from a PPOR to an IP though..

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    They might be upgrading and the house they want to buy will go up even more.

    Some people overpaid in 2003 and are sick of waiting.
    Some may have had bad tenants and have had enough.
    Some people do not believe there WILL be capital gain.
    Some people believe the hype that property values will DROP by 40% (like USA). Papers were full of this as recently as last month.
    depends who you listen to.

    People buy and sell houses all the time for many reasons.

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