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Agreed Terry
If you know that you are going to purchase an IP and you want it in a trust for whatever reason, then save the hassle and set yourself up first.
You would not put in an offer on a property if you don’t know how much you can borrow, would you? My point is structuring is a part of my due dilligence BEFORE I buy.CATA
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[email protected]Hi Trish
I don’t mean to sound rude but that’s a headake waiting to happen.
Yes I guess it can be done but it would be far easier (and cheaper) to decide first how you are going to purchase the property.There is also time issues when setting structures in place nd the contract may not be long enough.
Hope this helps
CATA
Asset Protection Specialist
[email protected]Hi Andrea
Yes I believe that if you have assets worth protecting then keeping them in some sort of structuring. The trust could be broken into in rare cases (this will depend on how good the trust deed is).
You can have the future beneficaries that Terry mentioned,but you could also have a company and friends as beneficaries.
There is a number of options that you could choose, but all will not protect you from getting married. The family law courts can look through most structures.
E-mail me
CATA
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[email protected]Kudos to you Steve for doing your best and being totally commited to it.
I like your style. [thumbsupanim]
CATA
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[email protected]If you want to get the negative gearing affect with a trust, one way is using a Hybrid trust. There is a number of options for this and thinking a little different can sometimes be benificial.
You will need some goals and investment stratagies before structuring.
E-mail me if you want to chat.
CATA
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[email protected]Don’t limit yourself to Darwin Meg.
There are some great accountants all over the country and they are only a phone call away.I live in Brisbane and I know of 2 great accountants, neither of which are in Queensland (one in NSW and one in VIC which is the one I use most)
Between phone, fax, e-mail, and post you should look outside your backyard if you do not find a good accountant in Darwin.
CATA
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[email protected]That would depend on your investment stratagie and goals Sue.
I presume that you intend to purchase IP’s in the company, this I would reconsider for asset protection and tax purposes.CATA
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[email protected]Hi Paul,
This is a question that I get asked alot. If the money is not borrowed then yes it is easy to do. But if the money is borrowed then gifted to the trust, it will not be tax deductable as the purpose of the money is for a gift, not income producing assets.It’s still easy but you will need to know all the facts. No tax deduction could turn some people off.
CATA
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[email protected]From my sources (and others have different opinions) that investing through SMSF into unit trusts will be outlawed by 2009.
Others have different opinions.
I don’t know of property warrants and the structuring they are using. It sounds to me that they are renaming the units as warrants and pitching the same thing. Much the same as the Property Investors Trust. This trust was a renamed version of the structure consisting of a unit trust and hybrid trust combination (which between you and me, is what I posted long ago).
CATA
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[email protected]I haven’t heard of them before, but it is probably using your SMSF to invest in a unit trust, which could then borrow the rest of the money to purchase an IP. It sounds like a marketing pitch to me as it is nothing new to do this.
However I have been informed that this will be outlawed be 09, so do your own due dilligenge and make an informed decision.
CATA
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[email protected]If you loan money to a trust and are sued personally, the loan is seen as an asset to you personally. in this case the loan could e recalled as payment to a litigant.
Hope this helps
CATA
Asset Protection Specialist
[email protected]My idea of retirement in not having to work, but wanting to is a different story.
If you enjoy working but have enough cashflow without working is my version of retirement.By the way, I turned 30 this year. [biggrin]
CATA
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[email protected]Hi Salocker
It sounds straight forward to me, depending on your investment stratagie and your choice of trust. Most lenders are getting better with trusts but you will need a broker who knows how to fill in the paperwork (to moke it easier for the bank if they have a problem)
There are some knowledgable brokers on this site and you could do alot worse than Terry (I do not know him but this is the feel I get from his posts)
CATA
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[email protected]Hi Stu
Or should I call you Allan Bond (I think that is what he did).
The courts can unwind these type of situations if you are insolvent before the change up to 5 years in the past.The only way to get arroung this would be to transfer the asset to an unrelated entity offshore, but this brings up the spotlight on yourself.
Probably jail time in this senerao but you possibly keep the asset.Kiwi
Terry is correct. In Aus the family law courts have the power to look through any structure.
CATA
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[email protected]I believe that the family law courts can look through any structuring, and see it as joint ownership.
CATA
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[email protected]Ok F, I’ll play.
I think that the bank valuation of the marbles would be 366 lollies. My expirence is that the banks are about 6 months behind the markets.
Which makes the market value of the marbles 396 lollies.
Other factors to take into consideration is supply and demand. If there is 2 kids that want the marbles then more lollies could be offered ( This would be 2 kids in different grades as there is only 1 child per year) , but the reverse also if no children wants the marbles then it will be difficult to sell and as a result reducing the price may be needed.
But I have a few last questions,
Does marble colour/pattern affect price?
Are there any toms (larger marbles) that could be subdivided?
Any steel marbles? these were popular at my school.
Can you reno a marble?
How many marbles were in that bag?And as my wife is a teacher, I feel sorry for the teacher of a school that has one child in each grade up to year 6 (or 10). The work load would be HUGE.
CATA
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[email protected]Mowing the lawn seems to be missing, simple but it amazes me how many properties are for sale with long grass.
CATA
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[email protected]Add to that not living with them either Terry.
CATA
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[email protected]Originally posted by alexlee:Just attacking something because you don’t understand means you’ll miss out on a lot of opportunities.
Fantastic attitude for an accountant Alex. I have come accross some norrow minded ones.
CATA
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[email protected]This is yet another reason to find out about different structuring options. Family trusts are not the only way to go.
Thanks Noddies
CATA
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