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    This post just goes to prove what I have been saying to everyone about tradies-they are the biggest bunch of rip off merrchants next to used car salesman out there. They charge like wounded bulls and still expect to be treated like princesses-fer crying out loud most are on $100k a year plus and they have a little cry if they arnt waited on like royalty with drinks etc? WTF ever heard of an esky ya bludger? I cant wait for the tide to turn back around to where there is an excess of tradies to choose from and they can come back to reality.

    I am paying you to do a job, full stop. And you are recieving my money in return for the job completed to a professional standard. I dont understand the part where I am paying you to allow me to be 'nice' to you or to be your waiter?? I suppose you would be understandable of waiters in restaurants only bringing youa half arsed dodgy meal in a restaurant if they wernt happy with your demenour? Wake up guys!!!

    And you want to know where all this hostility comes from?? EXPERIENCE!!!! I used to do the bend over backwards Mr Nice guy bring em coffee and beers game-that was until they kept taking advantage of me and screwing me over. So now I treat like they should be treated-as a pure business relationship, no favours, and if the job doesnt get done right then no  money till it is. And guess what-my experiences with em are all rosey now!!! :)

    Little story that was the straw that broke the camels back-had a shower that needed to be retiled. Needed the cement sheeting replaced also. Got a quote from the guy, cool, told him he had the job. Was making him coffees, even made him a sadwich for lunch etc Then he tells me 'sorry mate guna have to do a lot more work-got repack all the walls blah blah blah that will be another $500' I think geeeezus, ok whatever and agree-again being Mr nice guy and trusting him. Well I go  in 15 mins later to see that this $500 worth of work only involved using a few scap bits of sheeting to bring the walls of the shower out-a 2 minute job at best. I crack the shits and ask him where all this extra work that the $500 is? He just stares at me blankly for a few minutes liek a kid caught with his hand in the lolly jar and then for the classic 'well mate I can leave right now if you want but good luck getting someone to replace me!!'  Hows it go L.A…'Good guy'……….

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    rejoice wrote:
    Unfortunate… I've sent you an email.

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    lol oh my here we go-I guess their house burnt down because they wernt visualising their home and contents isurance being paid properly? lol

    Anyone see the Chasers War on everything the other night-god it was funny they had this hillarious bit on the 'Secret'-had me in tears

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    So I presume you have a link to a news article on the house burning down, perhaps some pics even? Becasuse you know the internet and all-everyone tells the truth and no one ever scams.

    Sure is a shame if its true, why were they behind in payments after only nine months in the house? Eyes to big for thier belly? Sorry but I have a lot of trouble giving money to people who are in a situation through no fault but hteir own. I will give money to hospitals, starving kids in Africa but why should I stick my hand in to my pocket for someone who is essentialy in trouble due to their own greed? If they spent so much on a house that they couldnt even afford $500 for home and contents insuurance then no sympathy here sorry….

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    foundation wrote:
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    there are ways to do it without putting you to far into trouble. there will always be people that tell you you cant do it but u can.

    Right, you've got my attention. Big rewards, no risk. That's what I like to hear! Woohoo, fire away!

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    we […] refinanced our home […] interest only […] from advice that over the next 10 years our house price should double, here is a quick run down of what we shall do.
    […]kaching.

    think positive find a way and brush off the nay sayers.

    There's a difference between rational positive thinking and irresponsible magical thinking. So you had advice that the price of your house should double over the next 10 years. I'd love to hear where you got this advice. I'd also be interested to hear what you did when you heard this opinion. Here's what I do when somebody offers an opinion:

    Consider that opinion. If the opinion doesn't stand up to scrutiny or the opinionator can't substantiate it, disregard it. Assume all opinions are false unless they are backed by sufficient evidence. If the opinion relates a future (which is always uncertain) without acknowledging this lack of certainty, disregard it. Once the opinion is substantiated to my satisfaction, then and only then consider staking my financial future on it.

    See here's the thing. If these prophets who claim house prices will double every 10 years into perpetuity are correct, I could purchase just one house tomorrow, board up all the doors and windows, then retire in three years (mid 30s). The capital gain would by then be sufficient to pay (using a line of credit) the small remaining mortgage and to replace my wage. Better still, the amount I could draw to replace my wage would rise by 7% per year each and every year for the rest of my life! Sure beats the 3%-5% increases I've been getting lately!

    Would this be a wise thing for me to do? Why/why not?

    Would this be a wise thing for every singe working person in Australia to do? Why/why not?

    I love it Foundation-you crack me up with how while everyone else is talking pie in the sky you can see reality :) You comments are always welcome!!!

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    Ohh sorry forgot to answer your question regarding if I have a portfolio-this is the internet-I could tell you I have 5 or 50 investment properties but for what its worth I do o.k. I read lots, listen even more and have opinions and like to share them-people can take them for what they are worth :) If at the end of the day I have managed to make someone look for a second from the other side then I am happy.

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    Danye,

    I understand your passion and desire to create a 'portfolio' however you really need to weigh up the risks, your current position and not dreams get in the way of reality. I shoot from the hip so here goes-as it currently stands you would be paying close to $450a week on repayments-doesnt leave much left to provide for a family of five-I dont know how you do it. Now if you did happen to get a 'positively geared' property (good luck) that would all be well and good-BUT you need to factor in two very important factors a) what would happen if there was  a period of no occupancy-how long could you afford to pay both mortgages? and b) what would happen if either you or your husband lost your jobs-wouldnt take very long at all before you would be in deep poop.

    Basically what Im trying to say is its all very well and good to 'want' to achieve sucess in property, or in deed life in general, but at the same time I like to weigh up the risks and take all factors into account, and not just do something becase its what the Jones are doing. Hope it all works out for you though and please dont take my comments to heart-I just want you to go in to whatever you do with your eyes wide open-mortgage foreclosures are at an all time high…how did these people get themselves into those positions is somethingthat always has me baffled, and more often than not, actually 99.99% of the time it is due to people buying beyond their means..?

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    I agree with your broker-you have a combined yearly income of just on $56k and want to take on debt of close to $500k??? Are youcompletely nuts or have I missed something? Plus you have 3 kids to provide for???? Sorry if I seem rude but how on earth do you expect to get by?

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    I agree with your sentiments L.A but in this instance I would have to say I agree with the newspapers-I have been regularily attending auctions for the last six months at whilst at first thought it was 'surprising' to see places sell for $50-$100k over advertised price it is now the norm. I turn up to auctions automatically adding on AT LEAST 30%, most of the properties I have looked at have been in the $300+ range and they have all gone for anything form $350-$450k. There is definately heat in the market though I dont think anyone could have seen it coming. I am truley amazed at what people are paying, its just plain crazy….

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    Well there DEFINATELY is a boom in the inner city regions-it i snow par for the course for properies to go for $100k over advertised, which makes me wonder how on earth the realestate agents arnt being fined under the new laws.

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    What I want to know is why with all these things do you have to pay? If you have a 'secret' to getting rich etc then surely you dont need the money and should freely pass it onto others, charging $2k it would seem you are 'visulising' all the people sending you the money making you rich? Scam scam scam for the weekminded masses, you are a joker and a fool, go away you leech….I dont need to pay someone $2k to know that I need to set goals on focus on achieving them through hard work and dedication. 

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    BreakEven wrote:


    Could rates possibly be at their height (or very close too)?? 

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    What makes you think interest rates are close to their peak? Historically they are very low!!! Still plenty of room to keep going up-talk to someone who lived throuhg the 80's-Dad wa ssaying with every interest rate rise evryone said it would be the last and that they couldnt posibbly go any higher..that was until they went up again the next time…and the time after that…and so on…..

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    Artaud wrote:
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    You say the paperwork has been sent out but have you signed anything? Has any money changed hands? If your broker told you one thing and the paperwork says another do you have anything in writing from your broker stating the original terms and conditions?

    I guess what I'm angling at is that your broker may have a legal case to answer.

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    Thanks all ths far for the replies. A while ago I made the broker email me all the details of the loan showing the interest rate, fees etc so at least I have that. He also finally replied to one of my emails admitting there is a problem and that he would be getting the Com bank to rectify. So this is promising-its just a worry how this can all happen-I mean we agreed on a fixed rate of 7.15 contract comes through at 7.35, agreed on no fees-contract comes through with $8 fee per month, we agreed upon no establishment fee, contract comes through with $300 establishment fee, we agreed on fortnightly repayments, contract comes through with monthly and on it goes…. how these types of mistakes happen is beyond me. Artaud at this point the only money that has changed hands was a rate lock fee we paid a few weeks ago-hence our surprise to see the interest rate had gone up.

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    Well how about you start at the start-save liek mad for your deposit-in the meantime keep a close eye on the property market so when it comes time to buy you are well prepared and well educated.

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    LindaClaridge wrote:
    I have a query in relation to buying and selling houses in this respect as well. People always mention how much they bought the house for and how much they sold it for – as already mentioned they never take into account the lower amount due to the tax they have paid – but I'm also curious as to why they never include the interest they pay on the loan – if it's their Principal Place of Residence they can't claim any of this as a tax deduction but everyone I know always neglects to take into account the interest they have paid on a property.

    For example. I did a calculation today on a $350,000 loan over 30 years at 8.5% with monthly payments – the total paid off (if you have the loan over 30 years) is $968,830.99 – $618,830.99 of that amount is interest payments. Granted the majority of people don't keep a house for 30 years but my thoughts would be that the interest you paid would be proportionate to the legth of time you are paying off the mortgage which on sale would decrease the amount you made on the sale – so why isn't this ever taken into account?

    In the above example by blogs it is stated that people say they make 100k which is actually 70k after tax – but if this was my example over say 5 years wouldn't you also have paid approximately 30k in interest so wouldn't this reduce the amount you have made to 40k?

    If I'm wrong please correct me but I've always wondered why interest is never taken into account?

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    Nope you are absolutely spot on Linda. People LOVE to brag and make themselves seem better than what they really are-thats about it in a nutshell!! I too have always been bemused how people 'forget' or NEGLECT to take interest payments into consideration…

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    Makes pefect sense and is one of my pet gripes!! People LOVE to say how they have MADE $100k etc on the sale of their house  but they never say how the new residence they have bought has also increased by x amount lol. That and my other pet gripe of how people say they MADE $100K but they never mention how they actually only made $70k etc after TAX!!!!

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    C2 wrote:
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    Would his numbers look better if he has an IO loan and his GF is also part of the big picture.  Just because he is borrowing from his parents doesn't necessarily make him young and naive.  I remember borrowing 2K from my father a few years back to pick up a property worth 72K because I was short of cash.  Still got that property today and its worth over 300K.  Maybe he was living in dream land before but has now seen the light and is making changes towards his future. 

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    No not at all-what I was aluding to (rather abruptly albeit) was that many young people these days have the idea that property prices will just keep going up and up. They also seem to lack the foresight to tack into account interest rate rises, increase in cost of living etc. So on the face of it I was trying to point out that he may be overly optermistic in thinking in three years he would be in a position to but another house aswell as keep the one he is looking at buying. And  its great that you (like every tom, dick and harry) have had sucess in property over the last ten years, the next ten however are going to be a completely different story…

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    Well that sounds a lot better-you think you will be able to find a 2 bedder in Ivanhoe for $250k though? Actually your potential property price will  be less than $250k after you factor in fees/stamp duty etc seeing you are borrowing the full amount? 

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    hey blogs – none taken. i am getting a 100% loan. and its all approved with essential advice from my financial advisor!
     
    If you reread what i have written above…I never said i could not afford the repayments on my own. i said i would just survive – which is fine as im keen to get started. i am on a really good wage upon finishing university (at least 10k above all my mates who got first jobs)I am also running on the assumption that in 3 + years i get at least some equity in the first apartment and that i get a pay rise at the end of this year which is gaurenteed (the pay rise). unless i totally stuff up at work of course…which wont happen.

    whilst im young yes, i am not niave.

    o.k mate lets crunch some numbers-Im guessing your loan is probably around $300-$350k at least? Repayments would be around $550 a week, you are (in your words) struggling to meet these repayments as you are. These repayments would be mostly interest, after 3 years you will probably have paid off around $15k of the residual. As far as payrises, even if you get a $10k pay rise the mooloah in your pocket that will be available to put int he loan would probably be only $7000.  So im guessing you are living at home with the folks at the mo? Just also take into account other expenses such as utilities, insurance etc. So after 3 years if you have managed to somehow scrape together $40k for a deposit you will have done extremely well, not saying it is impossible, but will be very hard..

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    Dont mean to offend but you sound like you are living in dream land-you havent been able to save up enough money for a depost so you are going to have to borrow from your parents, you arnt earning enough to pay for the mortgage so have to rent out the spare room yet you think in a couple of years you are going to have so much money that not only will you be able to afford this appartment but somehow you will have saved up enough money for ANOTHER deposit on a house, pay its mortgage AND still keep the apartment?? Ahh to be young and niave again….

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