Thats cool-but I think you are confusing the issue, by people stating that plumbing or electrical work is easy it isnt saying that plumbers and electricians are any less intelligent than anyone else. As for plumbing it is a bloody toughf job with not so great conditions at times, but to say it is a complex and difficult job isnt necessarily true-this isnt to say though that some bong smoking uni grad is any more intelligent, just that the actual job they are doing isnt that complicated. Hell I have mates I went to school with who had t.e.r.s of 85 and are in trades. I think tradies worry more about how people judge them then anyone else.

I couldnt really give a stuff-all I care about as Ive said before is getting what I pay for-charge professional fees deliver professional service and I'll be happy as larry

Well thankfully you have posted and now we can all walk away feeling 'enlightened' lol, thank you!!

Never fails to amuse me how 'precious' tradies can be-I wasnt looking down my nose at you, why would I? I do however find it nuts that the ad your union is running seems to imply that your training should be comparable to that of a doctor. Now that is crazy-do you have ANY idea of the amount of study, training and information those guys have to absorb over a 7 year period?? It is unbelieveable. Electronics on the other hand, well sorry but it aint that tough-and yes I can speak from experiance..

Bwhahahahahahah lol god this was funny!! This was supposed to be funny wasnt it? We should be thankful for tradies stoppping us from killing ourselves? Wha the?

While we are on topic something slightly off topic-who finds it humerous the Electrical Trades Union ads running on the radio of late that says "If it takes 7 years to train a doctor how can you expect to train a sparky in 2". Is it only me or does anyone else find it strange that sparkies are comparing themselves to doctors? Talk about getting a grip……

Nope-was frustrated enough as it was, couldnt be bothered with dragging it out even more, plus all I need is a angry and aggressive tradie banging on my door…was just easier to put it down to experience (again…) and finish the job myself…

Plus aswell as taking peoples prior comments on board about supplying him free beer I also paid him cash (as was also suggested by the trady lovers). Next time though it will be no free beer, striclty cheque with receipt and dept of fair trading and anyone else who will listen if I have to go through this carp again….such a joke…..

What I do for a living is not of concern, what is of concern is that as a consumer I, as with many others are sick and tired of paying 'professional' fees to 'tradies' who are anything but professional. I have said before I have no problem with paying top dollar-but in return expect top level service. When paying $350 a day I dont expect to have to ask a guy to come back 5 times to fix work that should have been donE right the first time, I dont expect to have to shower him with gifts and niceties to get the work done for which I am paying him. If you want to be paid professional wages then its quite simple really-ACT PROFESSIONALLY…….

Maybe tradies are oblivious to what happens in the real world as any work they get done is probably from mates in the game who give top level service becasue they are 'mates'. Surely you arnt so niave as to ignore the fact that on a whole there seems to be a whole lot of rorting and shoddy workmanship being conducted?

What about Dennis Denuto- I hear he is not bad!!!

First of all welcome!! Now the above is the type of view I just dont understand-the east to me is sickening in the sprawl of houses-it is relentless and non stop for nearly 2 hours…..whats so interesting about that? Add in constant 6 lanes of bumper to bumper traffic everywhere ughhhh no thanks. And if you are liking hills well like Ive said earlier most of the east is just as flat as the west bar Donvale, Templestowe area etc.

Another common misconception by people who dwell on the east and hardley venture into the west. Truth be know the east has over 5 times the amount of industrial areas than the west-you seem to be basing your opinion on a narrow field of view obtained from the westgate merge, though I can understand you reasoning. Ever ventured down Moorabbin, Dandenong way? And as far as smells, well I live inner west and have never smelt anything lol and anyway the wind normally blows from the west to the east so we get clean air and the east would get all the dirty air anyway. Air quality has been measured to be much worse on the eastern side-what would you expect when there are again about 5 times the amount of cars on the eastern side pumping out pollution?

TracyD wrote:

Hello people!
I will tell you the reason!!!!!
The west is flat and has a lot of estates that do not have outstanding features that people will pay more to live near. Except – williamstown, Altona, etc they have beach and closer to city.
The same reason the places in the East or North have lower values – Cranbourne, Dandenong or Thomastown for example, flat with no outstanding features. 
These lack of features will not put demand on a property/area which is what drives prices up.
 Just my opinion, not bagging out any area as such

So can you explain to me why people would want to pay a premium to live somewhere hilly where driveways are a nightmare and due to the 45 degree sloping backyards they cant even have a half decent entertaining area? Most of the east is just as flat as the west except for pockets such as Doncaster, Donavale etc anyway?

I used to fly a lot and would be constantly amazed a the sprawling mass of surburbia out to the east-looked very much like L.A, and then you would look at the west and it would hardley extend out at all. Granted the areas out form the west were a very different socio economic type to that of the east but I still stand by my view (which has already been greatly proven already) that people can only afford so much, so if you have a couple with say a $500k budget who could only afford areas more than an hour out the east then of course they will look to the west and WILL/HAVE bought up big time when they see for that money they can still buy a terrace styple house within 8km of the CBD…quite simple really……

Finally someone with half a brain thatcan actually see just because a house has gone up $30k doesnt mean you have made $30k, as Ive said before people LOVE to brag about how their property has gone up by x amount but ALWAYS forget to mention how much it has cost them………..