When you buy a property, you have a couple of different Stamp Duties that you have to pay, one is based on the purchase price of the property and the other is based on the loan amount.
Stamp Duty on the property is added to the cost base of the property for when you sell in order to work out the amount of capital gains. It is not deductible.
Stamp Duty on your loan, I believe becomes part of your loan costs that you can deduct over a 5 year period.
I went to one about 18 months ago before I began investing, it basically went through the book (which I bought later), and after reading it I realised that it was pretty much word for word, including the jokes.
He is an interesting speaker and the $60 I spent was not wasted.
If you do go, and if it has the same format as the last one, then at the start he will pull out a wad of $100 bills and ask something like “who would pay $50 to get $100” – at this point take $50 up to him and he will give you $100. Pays for the seminar. The other option, give him $10 with an IOU for $40 []
I did not go on and do his mentoring program or longer seminars.
For all of our 3 properties we have added a clause to the contract to get access to the property once the contract went unconditional – meaning that it had to proceed and we had to buy the property. Getting access before the contract is unconditional is risky, because if you do work on the property and the contract falls over, then you have to bring the property back to what it was before you started, which could be difficult or costly.
Of our 3 houses, we have only had one where the current owners agreed to this (cest la vie), and they were very good about it and even helped us with some of the work that was being done – very, very nice people. We reciprocated, as he was a lawn mower man, we now use his services to mow the lawns at the rental property which used to be his house.
It meant that we were able to tenant the property the day after settlement, which we did manage to do.
We had a chemical treatment done in the last couple of months on our PPOR, cost us $4000 with an annual visit ($300) to come and re-do the chemicals. We did not have termites, however next door did as did the house 4 doors down – their treatments were $7000+ each.
The chemicals that they use under the slab these days lasts an initial 5 years, and then you basically have to have something else put in place to protect against them. In older houses the chemicals allowed to be used at the time had life-spans of 20 to 100 years. Due to concerns of leaching (which I am told, they did not do), we have to move to inferior chemicals and have them re-applied all the time.
Good for the pest companies, not so good for the home owner.
We have 2 houses that will probably need treatments (just for protection) in the next 12-18 months. The treatment will be tax deductable, but still will come out at $1500+ each after tax. No choice really, just a cost have having to hold an investment property in Brisbane where termites are everywhere.
You would want to avoid any of the houses that are close to the main road that goes from Sandgate Road out to the Airport, probably would get a bit of traffic noise. Ones on the other side of the complex should have the noise muffled.
It is not such a bad location, close to Toombul Shopping Centre and a reasonable run into the city. Probably a bit far to walk to the train station though.
There was a recent complex completed at Bridgeman Downs / Aspley on Albany Creek Road, again a main road, but close to the Hypermarket.
The only other Northside one I can think of is over at Carseldine (I think). Have not seen this one.
They are well established in Queensland (Brisbane). They buy a large tract of land and then build a mix of housing onto the land – detatched houses and townhouses (2 to 3 bedrooms) and generally include some recreational facilities ranging from BBQ area, pool and tennis court. The complex tends to come with an on-site manager. The detatched houses will tend to have a garage (maybe 2) and the townhouses have a carport – at least in the couple of complexes that I have seen.
I would not say that they build to the highest quality, but certainly not the worst, and the prices tend to be reasonable. I have no idea as to the mix of owner-occupied versus rented within the complexes.
You can check out their history at the QBSA (Queensland Building Services Authority).
The review is quite scathing, however irrespective of this, it was in reading his books, and those of other authors, that my wife and I began contemplating investing in real estate.
I suspect this is the same for most people getting started. Without them I doubt we would have had the impetus to begin.
We have 1 PPOR, 3 IPs and 1 vacant block of land to build IP#4 on.
We started 16 months ago with our first property, signing the contract within 2 hours of seeing the property – mind you we had been looking for a few months so were on top of things when we saw the opportunity. It is a 4 B/R house in Windsor, about 5 Kms to Brisbane CBD. We were lucky to get it, as the agent had 9 other callers while we were signing the contract. It is a double block with a post-war house on it, so we can build units on it later. This one costs us about $10/week, but has been going up in value by at least $1500/week. We were able to borrow 110% to cover all of the costs as we owned our PPOR outright and had a few hundred thousand in the bank. It was tenanted from the day after settlement and has had 100% occupancy. From here we then moved into a new PPOR and bought number 2 at the same time. It was a bit of a hassle as we no longer had a house for security to get #2, so had to lock in a term deposit for the bank and settle #2 a few days after the new PPOR. It was quite messy, but we got there. The new PPOR left us with around $500K of equity, so was relatively easy to keep buying.
We got #2 in Bridgeman Downs. It was a 3 bedroom house, but we were easily able to turn it into a 4 bedroom house and added airconditioning. We had a tenant lined up to move in 2 days after settlement. This is neutral.
Number 3 took a while longer as we were settling into the new PPOR and doing a few things to it. We just bought this one on the 17th of June in McDowall and pre-paid the interest. The owners rented back for a few weeks and then vacated it, which allowed us to re-carpet, re-paint, add in ducted airconditioning and some minor plumbing work. It gets tenanted next Friday, and will also be neutral.
While all of this was happening, the block of land next to our PPOR came up for sale. This was more of an emotional purchase, as it means we can build a house on it that does not effect our views. In the mean time we can tax-deduct the interest while we work out the plans for the house. This all happened on the 30th of June, and again we pre-paid the interest. Unfortunately, no income on this one until we get a house on it, which might take us another 12+ months.
We have learnt a lot in doing this, and I think we will always have so much more to learn. We have built up a list of trades people who are really good and easy to work with. For example, our electrician, I needed to get some lights replaced in #3 so gave him a call. He met me at the house at 9pm one evening to do the work, did not have everything and came back the next morning at 7am. I had forgotten to bring my extension cord over, so he loaned me his for the night. Bloody Brilliant! If you need an electrician in Brisbane, I can certainly recommend him, friendly, courteous, does good work and is reasonably priced.
You will still have agents with their own websites, so look at the for-sale signs in the area you are looking at to if they mention a site.
For the rents, you can use the same sites, as they will also list places for rent, so you can easily see what is currently available and at what price in order to make a comparison with what you intend to purchase.
You will also need to be careful about what you are claiming as a repair, as it may actually be classed as an improvement and would have to be depreciated rather than be completly deductible. Check with the ATO or your accountant.
With my simplistic view I see it as basically the following:
Gross Salary = $A
Total Rent from IP#1 = $B
Total Rent from IP#2 = $C
Total Expenses for IP#1 = $D
Total Expenses for IP#2 = $E
Tax already paid (PAYG) = $F
Total income: $A + $B + $C = $X
Total expenses: $E + $F = $Y
Taxable income = $X – $Y = $Z
Work out the tax you would have to pay on $Z, if this is less than what you have already paid via PAYG ($F) you get a refund, if it is more, then you make up the difference between $F and $Z
Cheers!
PS: As I am not an accountant, I could be completely wrong []
Just following on from Leigh’s comment, put all the little extras that they say are included into the contract, otherwise they have no legal obligation to leave them even if they verbally said so. Had this happen to us recently where it was not explicit in the contract and things they said were included were not left behind.
My name is Stephen, 33 and married to my lovely wife Linda. We have 3 children – Kathryn who is almost 4, Christopher who is almost 2 and Timothy who is 4 months. I am an IT professional, these days managing a Technical Support Centre that services Asia Pacific and Japan. My wife is a Research Scientist with a really flexible work environment which helps when raising the kids.
We live in Bridgeman Downs in the northern suburbs of Brisbane having recently moved from the next suburb of McDowall.
We had been researching property investment for about 2 years before we finally took the big step about 15 months ago. We now have our PPOR, 3 rental properties and a block of land on which to build number 4. Each of the properties are slightly cash flow positive after tax (except for the land of course) and are in high growth areas.
We have a 10 year plan of slowly building up our portfolio to the extent that we can give away our jobs and never look back. The biggest hurdle for us was going from no debt (had payed of our previous PPOR) to having significant debt (but good debt) and managing this carefully. It also takes us quite a while to locate suitable properties for our buy and hold strategy in the local area. We are beginning to look at the renovation side of property.
Neither of us had family that had done anything like this, so were constantly baraged with negative comments and doomsayers. Finding out that some of our friends had been doing it for years was enlightening and a wealth of additional information followed. We have also encouraged a number of our friends to do the same, which has been great.
As a side note, as long as your intent is to purchase the vacant block of land and build a rental property on it, you can claim the interest paid as a tax deduction from the start. If your intention changes, then you can no longer claim the deduction. You should also be able to claim the public liability insurance that you take out on the block while it is still vacant.
Suburb/Postcode is also a big factor as I have similar priced properties in various suburbs with the same insurer and they vary a bit in the price. Maybe some of the insurance companies are “exposed” in this suburb.
If you are -ve gearing then you can also complete a 221D form to submit to the tax office to reduce the amount of tax taken out of your pay each period. I believe you basically project what your expenses and income are likely to be and based on this you get the new tax rate. A letter is sent to your employer for them to make the adjustment in each pay. If your situation changes, you just submit a new 221D. This is probably over simplified, but you get the gist.