However, why start again with new properties when we already have multiple between us that were purchased a couple decades ago?
Don't lose sight of the fact that buying and selling any property costs you extra $$. So, like many of the others, I'd say "take it easy" with selling them off right now – with the IP's being cashflow +ve there really is no rush.
And, if you aren't already aware, do check out Offset accounts which can be useful in helping you to pay off a PPOR, and/or allow further investment when the time is right.
I hear where you are coming from. I'm glad you decided to ask first (might've saved yourself some serious coin). I can't help you with Perth as I have no knowledge of it…..
…but your comments about paying down your PPOR had me thinking "Wait a minute…. !!" Here's why:-
To reduce your payments would mean re-applying for a new loan now (to get the benefit of lower repayments) AND another loan application down the track when wanting to re-borrow the money. What you need t know about is an Offset account – the best thing since sliced bread.
Check out post #9 in the following link to get a direction to what an Offset can do for you (it is worth the effort!!)
Thanks – and yes, it does make sense as venetians do look ugly once bent.
Re the verticals, do you prefer the wooden slat style, or the "bendy cloth" style? I'd think the wooden ones would look ace, but maybe more expensive (and heavier…) We typically just throw up curtains (easy to install, and often get good ones cheap on Sale, or at op shops).
And Catalyst, I tried to look at your youtube link re the burnt reno – but it came back "Channel does not exist…." Problem my end? Or is the link crook?
I would think any easement would be showing on the Registered Plan for the property. Note that I don't know this absolutely, but I do expect these should be showing.
If you can find the Lot # (from a Rates Notice of the property you are buying), or get a Rates Notice from your parents. Get their Lot #, then use Google to search the "Parish" etc and gather the Lot # of the target property from the Google map. Check that the Google map shows your parents' Lot# correctly first as a check.
Once you have that, the Land Titles Office will likely sell you a RP over the net for around $20 – today !!. That should then accurately identify the dimensions of the easement.
After that, the Local Council would likely have their own bylaws re what can be built on top. e.g. Since they may need to access the drain at some unknown timeframe into the future, they won't allow a structure to be built across it, but a concrete driveway "might" be OK, given they can dig it up if necessary.
You both mentioned "verticals". Are you talking walls here, or are you fitting vertical blinds to windows? If the latter, what is the idea with using vertical blinds – is it a cost saving or is there something else (e.g. a better look)?
Just curious – I hadn't heard the term used before as an item of cost.
Sounds like a great idea to me. Perhaps run a makeshift "passbook" which you update every 3 months with "Interest" as well as recording each addition of cash from them. Use separate passbooks – one for your Mum and Dad with their contributions, and another for your in-laws showing theirs. Make it an "occasion" when visiting to have calculated the latest "interest" and update their passbook while there.
That way, each couple knows how their grandson's fund is growing, with a really nice interest rate added quarterly. Doing it this way, they are also helping to secure their grandson's future too. A classic win/win/win situation.
Below is what I "think" is right… but I am not an adviser of any kind. I can't help with question 1, so let's see what others say……
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2. Is there any deductions available for the buggered Air Conditioning unit that has now been removed?
If you were already writing it down via an earlier Depreciation Schedule, the remaining WDV (Written Down Value) can be claimed in this FY as a lump sum.
It is the "purpose of the loan" that is important. Your words seem to say that you have purchased Prop #2 as a place to live. In that case, I would tend to agree that you wouldn't be able to claim the loan as for investment purposes.
But do you HAVE TO move into Prop #2?
If you can stay where you are, then $100k of the $104k should be deductible – BUT you have an account with "mixed" personal and investment monies. I'd suggest getting that put right. Talk to your accountant, or one of the advisers on here.
It seems to me like you (and your wife) would be wise to sit down in front of someone like Richard to thrash out all of those aspects. Even as a layman, I see a number of good possibilities for the two of you. With a plan that is agreed to by both of you, you can do very well.
Re the current PPOR becoming an IP later, that can work in many cases, but there may be better ways too – e.g. is the PPOR in a position where it "suits" being an IP, or would you be better advised to sell it, and use the proceeds to buy 2 IP's in better rental areas?
There are lots of ways to cut this cake – choosing the best way that suits the two of you is a good starting point. Once you know which direction to head, your journey will be easier.
It is great to see you looking to your future and sharing in the collective knowledge on here. Well done,
don't buy an inner city apt 'in general'. Why? they are overpriced and priced for the wealthy chinese market, and generally 10% over FV.
Another major reason why apartments (especially in highrises in major cities) are not such a good deal is that a huge percentage are sold to overseas buyers (I don't know current figures, but have heard up to 50% can be to the overseas market).
Because of FIRB rules, o'seas buyers are ONLY allowed to buy NEW properties (it helps to keep our builders employed). If 50% of an apartment complex is thus owned o'seas, what happens in a downturn in their country? Many of them might wish to sell what are now second-hand properties (thus they CANNOT be on-sold to other o'seas people, leaving only Australian residents to buy them).
If too many come on the market at once, and with half of the original buying market now GONE, what is likely to happen to the prices of these apartments ? Hmm…….
And welcome !! It sounds like you are in good shape, despite a little "untangling" to be done.
I'm sure if you choose to utilise one of the Mortgage Brokers on here, they will be on top of everything. But, should you choose to go another way (via a Bank, or another Broker somewhere), do consider your current situation re your PPOR. Your words suggest you might be retaining it as another IP. If that is to be the case (and even if it isn't…) do look at changing its current mortgage to Interest Only, and set up an Offset account against it. This will do a couple of really nice things :-
1. It will see you paying less and less Interest on your PPOR as the Offset balance grows.
2. Should you then wish to buy another PPOR, you can simply withdraw the monies from the Offset as your Deposit/Costs on the new home, and the existing IO mortgage on the old PPOR is then ripe for a Tax deduction with the mortgage that you set up today (or soon).
Since you have already paid off a chunk of your PPOR, there remains a lot of equity in that place which could then be harvested to buy another IP or two.
You look to be in really good shape to achieve your goal – "the ultimate goal is to have a reasonable second income from IPs whilst having the PPOR paid off."
My biggest question has and still is: where does the deposit for the next property come from? ……
This just seems a long way off my traditional understanding of purchasing 1 property a year.
The early days are always the hardest. When starting, more than ever, buying property "at a discount" or buying where you can add value quickly (reno?) is the way to go, even if cf+ already.
That way you get the quick equity jump that can help you into property #2, then #3, etc. One you have a portfolio of 5 or more, even a small %age rise in values (2 – 3%) can be enough to allow you to buy #6.
how would you choose between two $500,000 properties in an area with a median house price of $500,000, compared to four $250,000 properties in an area with a median house price of $250,000 (all other variables and potential gains / income being equal)?
Purely to "help you get your head around it", if all other variables are equal, then having four properties helps you out when a tenant vacates – you have lost just 25% of your rent until another tenant is found instead of 50%. With 75% still coming in, hopefully your mortgages will still get paid without too much damage. Conversely, with half your rent gone (if a higher value tenant leaves), covering the mortgages could be a bit of a stretch for a few weeks. Having four properties could also help if you want "diversification" (not one of my hot buttons, but it can be a safer ploy for some).
At the lower end, anyone can afford to rent them, so you are less likely to have an empty place for very long. Of course, some things won't be halved with a lower value property – e.g. conveyancing costs on purchase, rates, insurance, accountant fees at EOFY, maintenance, etc.
But then, rents of a cheapie are likely to be more than half of the more expensive property – just as well eh?
I'm sure there is more – but that should start a few thoughts going. In the end, personal choice, abilities, goals, etc will dictate your path,
The answer to your question comes from the "numbers" – at 95% LVR, there would need to be a really good Gross Rental Income to be +ve geared. This is simply because of the high %age borrowed, thus making the loan a higher number.
Yield comes from Income divided by costs. Thus with a 95% loan, the Income needs to be higher to still have a +ve cashflow. Gross Yield is the "quick and dirty" number that is often quoted on here – simply, "Expected Rent per annum divided by Property Purchase price". It is often used as a quick way to decide whether a property is "worth spending time on" prior to a possible purchase.
So if Derek were to find a property with (say) a 10% Yield, then it is likely to be positive despite the extra high (95%) mortgage. .With Interest as low as it is right now, maybe even a 7% yield is enough… But there are other costs, and they vary hugely….
You're onlydisadvantagedif you decide to rent the PPOR at some point – because you would have paid down a chunk of the principle (which would become tax deduticble when it becomes an IP).
… but again, it is something that isn't a major problem. e.g. If you decide you want to move out of this PPOR and rent it out, but have paid heaps off the mortgage while it was your PPOR, there is nothing to stop you borrowing against this for more investments (thus having those new loans becoming tax deductible).
The issue can be, if you are moving out of one PPOR and buying another, then any borrowings for the new PPOR will not be deductible (because it is not for investment). Other than that, anything is fixable – and of course, you can choose to SELL your old IP, thus getting a CGT exempt sale.
Whatever move you choose, do run each scenario in front of your adviser before doing it – and it helps if you can "get a handle on it" from your earliest investing days (hence this post of yours, I guess). Well done – keep on asking until you "get it" !!
The further question (Tax deduction re the business) I would think it would be similar to how it would work in your PPOR – i.e. a percentage of costs might be able to be claimed based on office size, personal vs business use, etc That would require more input from someone else though.
Benny
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