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    Hi Boshie,
    I just posted this for another new reader – take a look:-

    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/general-property/4349450

    That takes you through some VERY useful “first questions (and answers)” and could answer some of your questions straght off. You look to be in good shape and a bit of careful thought, and not rushing into things, that inheritance can likely change your life markedly.

    Stick around, read on, ask more questions, meet other investors, then plan your attack (set goals). And welcome to this special place,

    Benny

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    Hi appg2,
    Well done for thinking of these kinds of things while still young. I would say first do a bunch of learning re property – it can be a good friend if you treat it right. Take a look at the link below as a “get up to speed quickly” reference.

    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/general-property/4349450

    Stick around, ask more questions. You are in good shape. First though, after reading through the posts in that link, consider setting up an Offset account against your current home loan. If it later becomes a rental, you will thank me. If not, it won’t hurt you anyway. Stay in touch,

    Benny

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    Hi Samson,
    Hopefully, Terryw’s links will provide what you need to know.

    Re Andrew’s comment :-

    Property A will be only partially exempt from CGT since it was rented out for 4 years. A property is only fully CGT exempt if it is your PPOR for the whole duration of your ownership.

    …. I think Andrew might be presuming it was a renter from day one. Your words aren’t specific, but if it WAS your PPOR (i.e. you lived in it FIRST), and you kept it as your PPOR when you moved interstate , i.e. you didn’t nominate prop B as your new PPOR when you moved into it, then I believe Prop A could remain CGT exempt – even though it was rented. The rule might be that you must move back into it prior to selling to retain exemption – I don’t know – Andrew could be right after all.

    As Terry said, get some tax advice.

    Benny

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    Hi Callie,
    Sounds to me like a chat with your Solicitor (or one on here) would pay dividends. As I understand it, Company title means that the whole apartment block is owned as a single entity. Thus, to someone wanting to buy a single apartment, it is a bit like selling/buying one bedroom of someone’s house !!! ?????

    There are $$ to be made by buying a whole apartment block which is on Company title, then creating strata titles for each and every apartment. Once strata’ed, they can be sold off individually. Hoops to jump through, and costs, but the value of each apartment then leaps accordingly.

    Hopefully, one of our resident gurus will drop by and can add more (or correct me if I have anything wrong… *eek* :p) For now though, the word I’d use would be “Caution” !!

    Benny

    PS I just spotted your other thread – there are some replies in there from others:-
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4991717-company-title-help-needed/

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    Hi yuley,
    As with most things in life, it is the people that make the most dramas. Getting a GOOD Property Manager is every bit as important as a good Accountant, Broker, lawyer, etc. Good property managers will usually be found in good RE agents – but not always. We had a cracker PM who worked for a no-hope RE agent. We stuck with them BECAUSE of the PM. Once he left them, so did we.

    A drama that occurred for us was when we went through an exceptionally wet period – we got eight months of rainfall in just FOUR days. Though our place had long-run corrugated iron, the intense rain managed to belt its way through the seal around a pipe that vented through the iron. We ended up with drenched carpet and lost a tenant (his leather furniture was growing mouldy with all of the moisture in the air). The Insurance covered replacement carpet and lost rent so, the result was as good as could be expected.

    On another occasion (a different property with a different agent), a departing tenant had left a stack of little problems (writing on walls, garbage throughout the garden, house filthy, etc) The RE agent supposedly arranged a professional clean, but we inspected a week later to find filthy toilets, cobwebs on curtain rails, etc….. On approaching the RE agent’s new PM re the $350 spent on “cleaners”, their attitude was “Well, it wasn’t you that paid for it (as it had come from the retained bond monies).”

    Totally NOT the point !! We dismissed them on the spot, and left in search of a PM who appeared to care a little bit !!

    One major problem with PM’s (and all staff of any company) is that they can “move on”. So, if you have found a GOOD PM, be in touch regularly with them. Then, you may get to hear from them “Oh, I am moving on soon” – and can maybe follow them as they move.

    Good idea for a thread, Yuley – I look forward to reading others’ stories,

    Benny

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    Hi Terryw,
    Ah, of course – I’d missed the obvious…. A marginal Tax Rate of 40% would lead to a HUGE saving when compared to ~5% by using an Offset. Thanks for putting me straight.

    Ollie,
    Forget what I said earlier – I think I had missed seeing the elephant hiding in the corner of the room…. ;) Good luck with making it happen in time,

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    Hi Ollie,
    As Terryw said:-

    If you want to prepay interest then you have to be charged the interest before 30June of it will fall over next year.

    If you were planning on paying a year in advance, this would save you about $800 (based on a $400k loan with a 0.2% Interest saving – I think that is around the norm, yeah?) But, if you were to NOT pay the Interest amount in advance, these funds could instead be sitting in an Offset Account saving you Interest on a monthly basis anyway. How much would be saved?

    It would be worth running the numbers (one way vs the other) to see the true outcome of each way. e.g. by having ~$20k offset against a $400k loan, your monthly interest paid would be 5% less than if you had no Offset. And, you are paying in (slightly) inflated $$, while retaining flexibility of your funds too.

    Do the sums using YOUR figures though – and do let us know what transpires – I’d be keen to know, especially if one way is “streets ahead” of the other,

    Benny

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    Hi Ollie,

    I’m currently in this situation on a interest in advance loan trying to get it all sorted before July 1 due to my 13-14 tax advantages,

    Do check with your Accountant (of course) but I believe Taxation is based on “Contract Date” and NOT Settlement Date. If I am right, maybe there is less need to rush for a full settlement by June 30?? Of course, others may be able to put me right if I’ve stuffed up – I recall CGT is based on Contract Date (and that is usually the biggest Tax issue for many).

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    Hi Steve,
    Thanks for shining a light on that one. I’ve never thought to question it…..

    It is not like IP’s have an excessive amount of rubbish to be dumped, or need to provide any more water than a similar sized family living in its own PPOR. Parks in the area don’t need any more upkeep because people using it are renters. So WHERE is there any justification to rate IPs higher than other homes? I don’t see it….

    Doesn’t sound very fair to me. Thanks for bringing it up,

    Benny

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    Hi Davis,
    Welcome aboard !! I don’t know the firm myself, so can’t comment. Have you tried a search? Go in with an open mind, but my suggestion is to not sign anything on the day, but take the time to go home and “sleep on it”.

    Those companies who are “cowboys” are sales-oriented, and apply pressure tactics to get you to sign. If Christine is not like this, that is a good start. Then come back on here and ask any questions re what you learned from her. There are good businesses out there – this could well be one of them. If they are prepared to let you take your time, even more so. Good luck next week,

    Benny

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    Hi Magnet,
    Welcome aboard !!! I can’t answer your specific question, but I did do a quick Google search using these keywords – “strata title existing unit blocks” – and it provided a string of possible links.

    As Richard indicated, most will depend on the local Council and current bylaws. One of the links did say things like “What applied back when these were built may not be sufficient to strata them today”. i.e. new bylars, safety restrictions, etc.

    Anyway, good luck with your decision,

    Benny

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    Hi Lucinda,
    Use the Search box above, and type in “investors club” (complete with quotes). Then have a read…..

    And welcome – I hope you get some benefit from our website.

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    Hi Ollie,

    Time to sit back and read and learn

    Smart move !! And to get you on your way, try this thread :-

    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4410491-the-big-picture-for-new-readers-especially/

    I’m sure it will provide some answers to questions that you didn’t even know to ask. Enjoy,

    Benny

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    Hi Chris,
    … and welcome !! There are a wealth of useful threads that would (collectively) steer you down the right path. One thread I recall that asked particularly re IO loans and “how they work” that could give you some fresh thoughts. And, with the kind of $$ you and your fiance are bringing in, this can be good news. Here’s the thread:-
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4410595-im-a-bit-confused/

    Keep in mind too that there can be ways to generate Equity. Things like renovating, changing the “function” of a property, developing, subdividing, etc. Also, keep an eye out for Investor Meetings (regularly advertised on here) and go meet some others who are already into property. You will learn heaps from the presenters, and also from networking with like-minded people.

    Enjoy your time here, and do come back with any more questions. Hint – the only silly question is the one you don’t ask !!

    Benny

    PS Also have a read of this one :-
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4410491-the-big-picture-for-new-readers-especially/

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    Hi Eljay,

    ….and welcome. You’ve come to a good place !! Congratulations on setting yourself up so well, but, as others have been alluding, there may be other things worth considering even before you settle on the next one. Richard (I think) mentioned Offset Accounts, and he would be able to give you chapter and verse on them, for sure….

    But if you are interested in catching up with some important and useful reading, do take a look here :-
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4410491-the-big-picture-for-new-readers-especially/

    That link points to a thread that catches up with some really good “early knowledge” – including Offset Accounts. Have a read – I hope it is fruitful for you,

    Benny

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    Hi Se7en,
    As I understand it, you may choose a flat rate or a reducing rate. With flat rate loans, the % is owed on the TOTAL amount even as you reduce the amount still owing.

    I think (long time back now, so can’t be sure) there may also be a fixed term to it e.g. You can’t pay it off within a certain time frame, or, if you do, you STILL owe the flat rate interest on the full amount until that time frame has passed.

    Have a read of the fine print – the flat rate of 5.22% may SOUND great, but in actual fact it may have a nasty sting in its tail. You may well find it is roughly equivalent to a 9.49% reducing rate, give or take….

    Benny

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    Hi all,
    Whatever they end up doing, I trust they will take the time to “think things through” before introducing some radical change.

    The NCCP change introduced a couple of years back was an ill-thought-out change (IMHO). The major thing Govts need to consider is that changes may well be worthwhile to “stop people getting into trouble”, but any restrictive changes suddenly introduced can play havoc with those with skin in the game already. BOTH sides of an issue need to be considered before making wholesale changes. For those “in the game”, perhaps any change should be made non-retrospective, and even to take effect some years into the future – to allow time for those already committed to change direction.

    I trust the Libs will be a wee bit more circumspect than Labor have tended to be over time. Tony Abbott’s catch-phrase “First, do no harm” holds a measure of hope here. If he stands by those words, I would think any changes will be of value, even if unwelcome for some.

    Benny

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    Hi Poor Miner,
    I’ll add a +1 for Nick Moustacas.

    I have used him previously and he was on top of everything, and a pleasure to deal with. I suspect he would still be in Hurstville, but a quick check of “Strategic Wealth Management” website would affirm that,

    Benny

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    Hi Ben,
    First off, please note that the following thoughts don’t directly answer your question, but the thoughts therein might still be useful to you.

    Many of the following poster’s “numbers” won’t apply directly to your situation, but do have a read of this whole thread :-

    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4410595-im-a-bit-confused/

    In there, several posters share some very useful information that can perhaps turn on a light or two for you. In particular see my post of 29th March, where I project the poster’s likely situation in 10 years time. Note that I take an EXTREMELY conservative view of things (e.g. rents DON’T increase over those ten years), and yet the final outcome is pretty darn good anyway.

    Perhaps take that example, run YOUR numbers through it, and see what YOUR situation might look like in ten years too. You might also get a very pleasant surprise.

    Benny

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    Hi Bullion,
    Nice opportunities there. :) Re the CGT, I am certainly NOT an expert, and, the more I look at it, the more I think I should “Pass” and have you tell us after speaking to a good adviser (Accountant). But below were a few of my thoughts – see what you think….

    At first, I thought great – by selling half, your Cap Gain was ~$53k max. (then a 50% discount, then taxed on $26k = stuff all tax to pay). But then, that would then mean ALL of the $185k would be a gain on the second sale, so the CGT ramifications would be huge (and would depend on what you would earn in next FY too).

    Or, maybe on the first sale you would apportion HALF the initial cost as the Cost Base, thus giving you a Gain of over $90k on the first sale (then 50% discount, then taxed on $45k = a few $k tax to pay – not too bad).

    Are you allowed to CHOOSE which method to use? I don’t know…. But I would certainly like to hear the answer.

    For sure, do check all options before making the decision. The numbers will tell you which is the right way to go. Maybe it will make A LOT of sense to build on it as your PPOR… Interested in the outcome,

    Benny

    Later – I see Terryw was answering you as I was compiling mine. Cool !! Terry is one who really does know – unlike me ….. He picked up on the possibility that the land is owned in joint names (I’d missed that). Thanks Terry :)

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