I would call the regulating body in your state and ask them,
That would be the Real Estate Institute of the State – REIV, REINSW, REIQ, etc. It strikes me that you might be stuck with them for 90 days – but then, if they are that bad, give some thought to moving away even as you give them notice. e.g. it might cost you a further 8% of the rent, but if you have a BETTER agent running things, and this mob get their 8% for 3 months for doing nothing, at least they won’t be stuffing any more things up for you.
How bad are they really? Is it worth paying DOUBLE the Mgmt fee to have them NOT handling your property? Ask the REI if you can do that too.
Depending on how new the subdivision is, it may be that the pegs are in the ground and it is a simple matter of walking the block to find them.
These are the square pegs that are driven into the ground to signify where your boundary is. If these have been newly mapped out (i.e. a new subdivision) then they should be in place and easy to find.
Perhaps your builder is asking, simply because they haven’t been onsite yet, thus they don’t know if pegs are in place. If they are, tell him so – he might want you to draw up a rough map for him. No harm in asking, eh? Don’t pay $750 without checking with others first….
Benny
This reply was modified 8 years, 1 month ago by Benny.
At the bottom of this page (every page) is a block named as the Training Centre. Look in there for the area called “Developing”, and click on that (or go straight there – https://www.propertyinvesting.com/develop/ )
It consists of a number of articles written by various authors – these will fill your mind with stories, options, choices, data, laws, partners, financing, etc re developing.
Your question is one that maybe requires a book as an answer – so why not read that “Developing” book? I’m sure it will have a host of gems that will guide you further. Come back with any questions as you work your way through it!
Along with that, look out for meetings being held in your area, where investors get to meet up to discuss their situations with others. You will learn heaps by involving yourself in such groups.
And, welcome aboard….. you have come to a good place, ;)
“and in a falling market you could lose 10%+ and that could be all your profit……”
Those I have heard who develop won’t get out of bed for 10% return. Usually 20% minimum and climbing.
Still, if they got caught badly, even if just a 10% drop in values they might hold, leading to higher Interest costs which could erode their profits even further…..
So, yes, even a 10% drop could prove to be significant. Still “falling knife” stuff – one can only hope that they are smart enough to “cut their losers dead”. A small profit after a 10% drop is way better than holding, and paying ongoing Interest (into the red?) over the next year or two!!
I can’t help with any re-financing ideas – but you did say you would appreciate any comments, and I wanted to say that I gasped when I read how much you were about to spend, and simply wnated to ask whether you weren’t over-capitalising majorly???
Of course, there are units and units – and locations that lift some values way above others too.
But to be spending $330k on ONE unit (one million on 3 of them), you would be wanting to create some equity with that, hopefully WAY more than you spend. Some say, aim to add $2 value for each $1 to spend on a reno – so, are you expecting to add $660k in value to EACH unit? If so, how? What are their starting values, and expected end values?
Making each one strata’ed would add some value for sure. And maybe the units are in Mossman Sydney, or Toorak in Melbourne…. which would see them at a PREMIUM price compared to most other units.
Hi CallumA,
“I am not about to purchase an older home….”
I presume that was a typo, and should have read “I am now about to purchase an older home….” ;)
Any answer to your question re “How much would the value drop?” would require a lot more knowledge about the initial block – size, value, location, size after subdivision, etc. Depending on comparables surrounding it, it could be that any value change might be minimal – or not.
However, assuming your borrowings from the lender are secured by that house/land, you would be duty-bound to notify the lender – indeed, you might need their permission to go ahead with the split. So, yes, it is likely to be an issue of some kind.
Then again, since you already own one IP, if you are using the same lender, it could be that they are aware of you and your history, and they may well be more lenient because of this. Or any equity in your first IP might be utilised as extra security for the extra risk to them as you subdivide. So, I am sure there would be a path through this.
Maybe our MB’s on board can come up with examples of similar cases that they have been involved with. I am sure it would be a fairly common event.
I accidentally piled stacks of cash into my redraw as if it were an offset. This is normally a bad situation, but because I haven’t withdrawn any money from it, and I intend to use it for interest payments the cash will actually be able to be freed and eventually I will be clear of my mistake. This is one way to fix over paying into a redraw account.
That “sounds” like it is ready to be used. Perhps as a separate loan ONLY for IP expenses.
That could mean for paying Rates, Maintenance, Insurance, and Interest too (though I will leave you and Terry to finalise that one – i.e. re interest, and interest on interest). The main thing (I believe) is to keep each account separate – so if you withdraw via an LOC and ONLY use the $$ in it for IP expenses, then it “should” all be kosher, and all deductible. Maybe have a separate one for Personal??
But I am no adviser – so listen to Terryw and other advisers re the right way to do this.
Hi John,
(and all others reading this into the future)
If I had ever listened to friends and family, I would have probably only paid off 60% of my mortgage in the last 15 yrs and I would be sweating worrying if my superannuation would cut it when I retire, instead I have no mortgage, ten investment properties (two within a SMSF) and no concerns about if and when I can retire.
You said a mouthful there. No, let me take that back – those few words said a BOOK-full.
Let’s see now – based on your experience, do I :-
1. Pay off 60% of my house mortgage over 15 years by just making P&I payments, OR
2. Pay it right off, AND be holding 10 IP’s after 15 years?
Tough choice !! Can I phone a friend? *rotflmao* Of course, one way requires a bit more input than the other – in cash and in education. But hey, what a good result. Well done, John.
This is useful from you, but it leads me to more questions (sorry):-
There are key points to this that in my opinion are non-negotiable items when it comes to landlord insurance, these include inclusion of Accidental Damage rather than just Malicious Damage, no excess on loss of rent claims (huge impact on claimable amounts), and a number of other features.
From what I am reading of 5c1’s case, just the fact that a Company “covers” Accidental Damage is not enough. Like for Malicious Damage, it could be that Accidental Damage has a limitation on it somewhere in the back of a PDS too. Could this be so??
Why can’t Insurance Companies be directed BY LAW to state their exclusions up-front and out in the open (a bit like Banks and that “Comparative Rate” that puts the lie to their screamingly LOW Interest Rate). Isn’t there something called “Truth in Advertising” that would direct these Companies to be up-front with their exclusions?
Fixed interest so easy to calculate. By easy I should say possible.
Don’t try to calculate it – call your Bank and ask when you are “closing in” on paying it out. I had only one that I wanted to pay out (others have gone full term, and saved me heaps) but my calculations were WAY UNDER the final Break Cost. It was a long time back, but I recall paying about 2.5 times the amount I had calculated using the Interest Rate, and adding their fees for an early settlement of the Loan.
Things that I believe impact these – if you are breaking a Fixed Loan that has an interest rate HIGHER than the current Variable, they wll sting you for huge amounts. But if the current Variable is HIGHER than the Fixed Rate you are breaking, their costs will be minimal (they get their money back and can re-invest it at a BETTER rate, so they are gentle with you). The time left to run will have an effect too….. the earlier you break it, the more it will cost you (obviously).
The only way to really know is to call and ask (and then get the answer in writing, as well as over the phone). Be sitting down when they tell you the number… :p
Hi RY&F (again…)
I had responded after a cursory glance with my post above. But, on then re-reading your original post, I wanted to help with a couple of extra thoughts:-
More info : will 3 properties be enough when I get a family , children etc , probably not and thats when ill look to having 4 to 5 propertys outright
Good comment, and it makes sense to me….
but as for NOW I want the 3 debt free ASAP .
But that comment might indeed SLOW you down.
At its simplest, just the fact that you will be paying off deductible debt while still accumulating properties will have you paying extra Tax. Wait until you are in the Consolidation phase before paying down too much.
You have an extra $55k per year that can help – that is huge. Use that to add value (renovate? develop?) and/or hold spare $ in an Offset account. Use large chunks to buy properties “for cash” (rather than paying the $$ off a property, then being unable to buy the next one without having to borrow it back again….). There is lots to learn, RY&F.
Hi RY&F,
Good on you for asking such a good question. As several have said, education is the key. See, whether you use a BA or not, a MB or not, buy in Bne, Syd, Mel, or country Aus (or not) are all just tiny parts of one huge subject.
I would love to know how to get them myself but I’m not too confident with that at this stage – I’ll get better in time.
One bloke I heard of asked a couple “If someone can take you through the A to Z of how to make $100k on one property purchase, what would you be prepared to pay them for that knowledge?” The husband of the couple said “Hmm, I dunno – maybe $20k!” The wife said “I’d be prepared to pay them $100k – because then I could go out and do it myself, over and over!”
What you choose for an answer is almost immaterial – but what the wife said held a nugget of gold.
so I wouldn’t wanna buy his program if I cant use the info.
Fair enough too. Nothing wrong with some healthy caution. The best way to get an idea of how this all works is to talk to others. On here, face-to-face at Investor meetings (usually monthly in major centres), reading the stories of “those who already succeeded at this”, learning from your “team” (your MB, your accountant, lawyer, RE agent, etc)
The networking was an oft-mentioned positive for attendees:-
“Leaders attract people who resonate with them. Steve is generous, courageous and authentic, so you get to spend five days with 70 other people who are also generous, courageous and authentic.”
And the revelations were manifold:-
“For years my wife begged me to meet Steve McKnight and be part of his training and Apprenticeship program. But I thought I knew it all. In fact, little did I know! If only I had listened to my wife, we would be Job free, Debt free, & Financially free today.”
RY&F – you are in the right place – make the best use you can of it. Your future self will thank you.
I have written numerous times on this subject, malicious damage is a very specific term. So in my opinion you may have been lucky to even get the $10,000. What this does though is to highlight once again the need to be really careful about what’s included in policies.
That is scary – to think that if not deemed malicious damage, there may have been NO payout? (ref. “lucky to get $10k”).
Surely, since very few properties are rented to grow cannabis, there would only be a small premium to cover such an event surely. But if we had to physically list each/every possibility re damage (meteorite hit, neighbour’s property subsiding and having their house fall and break ours, car/truck/bus crash through our house, etc.) like there must be a thousand ways that a house could be damaged.
I struggle to think of all of the things that MIGHT happen that might need to be quantified (and charged for) to get FULL insurance. Even if I spent a month, I doubt that I would be able to think of EVERY eventuality that could break a house.
Doesn’t ANYONE just “cover the lot”? Even isues re water are mind-numbing – If it is a flood, NOT covered, but if run-off, covered…
What about you, B Clarke? Do you do a Comprehensive cover for Landlords, no matter what? If so, what kind of price pa for a similar property to 5c1 (Building: $640K – full rebuild cost and Contents: $70K (hardly necessary as it was let unfurnished).
his stove has been blocked due to food and he has tried to open it to fix it.
Jerry is right – how did this happen, whatever it is? If he is the one using the stove, and food is blocking something, guess who might have made that happen?
Has he sent you pictures? How has he been using the stove?
Let me tell you of a young man who shared accommodation with me for a week as we were attending a training course for our employer. I arrived on the Sunday to find my new sharemate digging into a toaster with a knife, trying to dislodge a MESS !! I asked him what happened…
He had arrived earlier that day and wanted to make toasted sandwiches for lunch. He bought bread, butter, cheese and pineapple – created a cheese and pineapple sandwich, then JAMMED it into the toaster and pressed down the lever !!! It made one helluva mess – but that is what happens to some people who haven’t yet learned to live on their own – they make mistakes.
Could this tenant be making mistakes with your appliances?
Yes, if the old stove was working and is not now, then replacement with another old (working) stove would be sufficient. The replacement wouldn’t have to be “new”.
But wait – have you had a repairman take a look? From your words, I could not understand just what might be “blocked and can’t open it”. Could it be this is a gas stove that has had food fall into the gas holes – in which case all that is required is for someone to unblock them.
If this were my rental, I would be taking a look myself, or sending a repairman before buying another stove. The repair might be just $100 – or free if you effected a repair yourself.
The dishwasher is something else. If the place doesn’t have a dishwasher, and the tenant wants one, maybe they can negotiate with you – i.e. If you had one installed, how much extra in rent would they want to pay? Me, I wouldn’t have one on my mind in a rental. But if the place DOES have a dishwasher, it was working and isn’t now, then you have some decisions to make. Get it fixed, replaced, or negotiate so that you don’t need to replace it. Your call.
Hi all,
As I don’t know/use QBE, others will need to answer this…
What I wondered is if perhaps cheaper offerings are cheaper for a reason? e.g. a Bank can offer a Basic Loan, or a Standard Loan. The Basic one is cheaper, but it offers far less options – it really is Basic, but enough for many people in most situations.
And then, playing Devil’s Advocate, $20k of cover for “malicious damage” would probably cover 90% of all malicious damage claims – only the extreme 10% (as with 5c1) that would be left wanting. Anyway it will be good to read more once things are resolved, 5c1.
This is such an important subject, and one that we all can do with knowing extra about. Thanks for starting it – let’s see where it ends…. (hopefully with some good news for you, and thus for others reading later).
Winston Churchill was one who came up with inspiring broadcasts (his Battle of Britain dissertation lives in my memory, even though I wasn’t alive when he made the broadcast).
He also had a sense of humour and an understanding that shone through in some of these sayings:-
• A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.
• In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies.
• We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
One quote I have loved for many years, courtesy of Richard Bach (renowned author):-
Your conscience is the measure of the honesty of your selfishness. Listen to it carefully
I found this quote always gives me an “Aha!” moment – it seems almost evergreen, as though I should ponder it daily…. See, I do believe we need to be “self-ish” (i.e. putting ourselves first) from time to time.
Consider the need for an adult to “Fit their oxygen mask first before assisting others!” If a parent were not looking after themselves FIRST, they would quickly become disabled to the point where they were unable to assist any children travelling with them. And how much would a little one “kick up” if terrified about this strange yellow thing going over their mouth if Mum hadn’t already put one on herself? If Mum does it first, it almost becomes a game, and far less terrifying for a toddler – true?
And, the good book tells us to Love one another as ourselves. It doesn’t say love others MORE than you love yourself, or love yourself LESS than others. So, yes, we DO need to think of SELF – and sometimes we MUST put ourselves first for the benefit of all around us.
Our conscience helps us to stay “on track” re our selfishness
;)
Benny
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