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Thats excellent mate,
thankyou for the info regarding carrying forward losses its very helpful and means i can get with the conversation a bit more on some of the other threads!
Thank you again Terry
Ben
Terry,
Thankyou for the response, and if i have learned correctly, my goal is to get my property/s to a point where they are +CF and negatively geared, yes?
your response to haiqu regarding asset protection and income distrobution has really enlightened me!
with the trust situation, doea this mean i need to decide what i want to do regarding offsetting "paper" losses against my income? if i have my i.p in a trust i can not offset the losses correct? so its a matter of deciding wether i want asset protection, and the ability to distribute any income (which will come in handy if wifey has time off work to have children) – or the ability to have paper losses and positive cash?
what would you recommend to someone in the early stages ie: 1 or 2 properties who wants to avoid a glass ceiling on how much they can borrow? obviously my situation id like to most be in would be readily available cashflow per month, rather than income coming readily available at tax time. i wonder could you please elaborate on what "losses will be carried forward to the next year" means?
i hope my question isnt one you answer all to often and grow tiresome of replying to !
thank you for your input thus far,
Ben
good morning all,
Thank you for your responses so far, it certainly makes interesting reading.
Terry,
Numerous investors i have dealings with in the "real" world use trusts, none i dont think are as tax savvy as yourself – none have said it was for tax reasons, they simply use trusts to ensure if things go pear shaped that they are protected, so thank you very much for your added advice on the benefits of using a trust its excellent,
As far as creating a +CF property is concerned, do you need to recieve an "income" after expenses per week eg after mortgage payments etc the rent pays you $20, or is +CF property simply a investment that ends up in th black annually? my goal would be to have the weekly income so i will be looking to achieve that, and am currently trying to learn about depreciation laws here in aus (i hope they are similar to nz) to see wether using depreciation allows me to get a property over the line as +CF. again, thank you for the posts so far Terry,haiqu,
Thanks for the welcome, bro
as per your previous post, i too am looking at holding on to property indefinately, so would be interested to hear your strategies implemented so far or plan of attack for the future. i like the idea of putting our ppor in our names that yourself and Terry mentioned and following on from that i would have used an LAQC like i mentioned previously until Terry alerted me to the differences between here and NZ, so at this time i am just looking for alternative avenues so your advice and opinion is awesome. you are right, initially i will be looking to keep things as simple as possible as far as accounting is concerned – my main focus is simply to aquire property and have the servicability to keep them, and use reno or creative techniques to build equity/make them +CF.Jamie,
I have done a search on LMI and found heaps to read so thanks for the heads up mate, id love to be able to go in with 20% by april next year, as i said i am holding an event that i believe will net me some funds to help reach that goal, but it is great to know that i have that option and that all is not lost if i pull up a tad short, as i want to stick to my deadlines!!!
I really appreciate all your posts and look forward to hearing more,
thanks again guys
Jamie and Terry, Thank you very much for your responses,
ive got a good grasp on using an offset account now and a 95 % lend (although i hope to take more to the deal)
and also regarding owning a property through a company, very interesting i will dig up more threads on that.
thank you again
Thanks sandra and Terry for providing some insight, most certainly an IO mortgage with an offset account will be what suits me best in my current situation (see thread https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/property-investing/help-needed/4333943 )
so thank you for sharing that info
Ben
Thanks JacM, so essentially its avoiding any fees i would incur when refinancing to deposit on our 2nd property, i guess the only difference being i can no longer positively gear the property through paying down the principle gradually?
appreciate the response thank you
i have a quick question regarding that sandra,
does this mean i can set my ip mortgages to IO, and each week make a manual payment that will vary depending how much i want to throw at it and not be penalised, but if i choose not to dont have to? i assume avid investors prefer to do it this way or something similar?
thank you for posting
Beni believe this will always be a solid investment strategy since over a 10 – 20 year period you will always see the peaks and troughs in a market, and be able to make informed decisions about when to on sell ? (if at all)
in 10 – 20 years one would assume, provided you can make some payments on the principal rather than interest only that the property/properties would become +CF at some point if not quickly depending on the deal.
Assuming during this period you have accumulated several i.p's, all becoming positively geared over a few years hard work, this strategy in my opinion and somewhat limited experience is a solid way to gain a residule income through property. I personally think that making a few cosmetic changes to one of your properties to add value ie small changes in kitchen & bathroom, light fittings, a small decking area etc, before onselling and using the profits to pay down the other mortgages to a point where they are positively geared is a wise one, and although it might take a few weekends work, will speed up the process when looking to get your portfolio paying you.i think the hard work to get positive cashflow is most important because once that is achieved you can sit and watch the growth happen without worrying about servicability or a glass ceiling on how much more you can invest if the right deal came along.
Im no expert but i hope its food for thought and i look forward to hearing what others have to say too!
have a nice day
DD,
thankyou for the input, really good ideas! i think speaking with numerous agents in the one area will give a far better understanding and one might tell you something another agent decided to leave out!
thanks again
DD,
thankyou for the input, really good ideas! i think speaking with numerous agents in the one area will give a far better understanding and one might tell you something another agent decided to leave out!
thanks again
Dave,
thank you for the input, absolutely it makes sense, i take from it that where ever the particular house is i am buying or selling, that agent would have the most knowledge on that area, market rental etc.thanks again
Hi Paul,
thank you so much for the contact details, of course, i missed out lawyer, i understand they are an important part of the property game.
is there anyone i might have forgotten to think of?thanks again
Ben
Thanks richard, thats excellent reading, my gut feeling was that using a broker would better suit us. it has to be said though that everyone wants to do the best job they possibly can when representing themselves, particularly when dealing with banks and lenders, so i thought i’d get a feel for what people did. i wouldnt be surprised if the 35% of people mentioned that used brokers were the more astute investors, the other 65% being people owning their own home only, just hazarding a guess.
any other advice you had on using a broker, or dealing with banks on the first meet would be greatly appreciated,
have a great dayRichard,
would you say that many investors are using brokers, in the initial stages anyway, when gaining finance for ip’s and/or homes to live in in the current market and economic climate?
my fiancee and i are looking to build our team for when we arrive in australia, and are wondering wether we should approach the banks ourselves, with our history, deposit, a brief character overview, income, etc. we feel if we can do the little things like show our servicability by breaking down 35% of our total gross income and showing forecasts for expenses from food and living etc and perhaps putting it in amongst our other paperwork it will show we have brains. however, i am aware that a good broker can get below advertised interest rates, fees waived etc, as well as having a developed relationship with many banks. Can we be sure that our chosen broker will do the best he or she can – just as i would if i walked in the bank myself?thankyou for your help so far, it is hugely appreciated
ben
my apologies, his contact details are in the previous post
great, i look forward to sitting down with him and with any luck build a lasting business relationship. does he by chance have a website or some contact details?
thanks richard
also are you based on the gold coast?Thankyou very much for your help so far. to be honest i think we would prefer to go with someone based on the gold coast for a more personable experience, that feeling of knowing who you are dealing with that much better after a coffee or two!
thanks again, i have more questions to follow!!
Ben