No Credit. Do you play any-other tune???? …..you sound very permabearish in all your posts. May I ask what you investing in at the moment……….. or sitting on your hands?????? You have to have some momentum to move forward my freind
Agree with Terry ………..Messy..messy …. and there are a lot of assumption and blanks
Expanding on the pension angle as this is very likely to impact …… We assume your dad is 5 years to retirement age and looking at some kind of pension as income???? Transferring title near retirement can be seen by Centrelink as him disposing / gifting of an asset and/or deception on their aged pension income & assets tests resulting in a reduction or no pension at all.
This can then lead to you and your dad having to argue with them on points of equity as you invested money to add value to the property etc but somehow he got the receipts /tax benefits not you and it could go on and on……….and don’t even think you can claim that the rent as part of your equity…. lol
Centrelink’s pensions view points are quiet clear and blurred cases are well documented in the courts. You just don’t want to go there.
Consider the impact on your families if at the end dad had no pension or income?
Developers not main land-banking culprit, says analystBy Bob Wilson, Hotspotting .com 28th October 2009
Blame for any shortage of land for housing development is usually sheeted home to developers, who are supposedly sitting on zoned, approved land awaiting a better market.But according to property analyst Michael Matusik, speculators are the more likely suspects, land banking with the aim of holding large parcels of land and on-selling the land in a stronger market.Matusik says developers have a different goal. They aim to make a profit, creating value by changing the land, not just holding on to it. The real issue with land banking, Matusik says, is the lag-time between buying raw land and then waiting for the development approval process to play out.“It is not unusual for the developer to come out at the other end with an approved project, yet be facing a markedly changed market,” he says. “Research has shown that in just five years, taxes, fees, levies and compliance costs have risen 300% to 400%.“Therefore the developer could emerge at some point with a fully-approved project, but it could cost more to bring the project to the market than the market is willing to pay. This is also known as ‘no market’ and, while developers hate to hear this, they’ve paid too much for the land in the first place.”So yes, land banking does happen, but it frequently happens in circumstances where the developer has no choice but to hold on to the land as there is no point in going ahead with an unprofitable project (or selling the land at a loss).The solution, Matusik says, is lower taxes and regulatory costs.Developers sometimes have to wait years for a development approval to emerge from councils, many of which are struggling to deal with backlogs of 12-18 months before the approval process (which itself usually takes 6-12 months) can proceed. And as real estate agents have found in the past two years, the hardest land to sell in a downturn is land which does not have a development approval.
Consider we have oafey slow thinking do gooder ideologues in the RBA and Fed Govt who finally realize affordability might be an issue. So the RBA decides it will now consider asset price inflation in setting the cash rate. Hmmmm……ok, so house prices too high -> raise rates, even if conventional inflation is within the target band. Hmmmm again…..that decreases the amount buyers can borrow, and increases the cost of building new stock. Population growing at 1.5-2%pa. Housing supply drops below 30,000 per qtr. Hmmmm indeed.
Consider we have oafey slow thinking do gooder ideologues in the RBA and Fed Govt who finally realize affordability might be an issue. So the RBA decides it will now consider asset price inflation in setting the cash rate. Hmmmm……ok, so house prices too high -> raise rates, even if conventional inflation is within the target band. Hmmmm again…..that decreases the amount buyers can borrow, and increases the cost of building new stock.
Population growing at 1.5-2%pa. Housing supply drops below 30,000 per qtr.
Hmmmm indeed.
Lol….. Silly story consider we talking reality my friend……
But don’t fret Mr Joe Blow here in Qld we are leading the way with the Bligh government instigating the “ Building Revival Forum” bureaucratic talkfest that’s bound to add more dead weight more regulations and believe it or not more bureaucracy ……
It appears the highest and best use of the land is subdivision hence you may be better off spending your money getting DA approval for the subdivision rather than spending it on the house. Sell it with the DA in place. Crunch the numbers on that also.
In saying this, I have been spending time with some developers and the feasibility calculator I made myself with their advice was essentially the same as carly's unintentionally (took me 15 mins to make on excel).
Any other questions feel free to ask.
NHG.. care to share your feasibility calculator with us… sure it would help many…….
My on the ground research says Brisbane's moving average will blow out beyond the GFC 55 day peak in the next 3 months.
WW I have a strong suspicion that we already there my friend …… from my own and my different contacts personal experience with properties on the market at present
Listings are up 50-100% in Brisbane outer and mid ring burbs, though vendors are yet to drop prices significantly. I expect downwards pressure to build in autumn next year. And that's when I might be making low ball offers on development sites. Nevertheless, I'll be following the rates outlook.
agree…
Banks need to lend money to make money… so maybe we will also see some easing mid next year … perfect receipe
Wander .……… sounds like you have your head on your shoulders and keeping the emotion out of it….. Its a buyers market and the agents job is to push you up…… has he actually presented a signed contact to the vendor or is it all been verbal???
Never discount that idea Beadie – the unknown is a powerful tool in the negotiation process when buying. If the vendor & agent are not fully acquainted with a proposal (and you are prepared for a long term hold, until there is certainty and the infrastructure is declared or built), then you are in the driver's seat.
Scott most definitely if the process of normal resumption is that fair (pricing wise) might be a good strategy for the right investor.
From my simpleton point of view and seeing it suits you, why just not reduce your offer down to the equivalent of the 3-4 months rent and allow them to stay there rent free for the period.
Valuers did their thing this week and verbally indicated for what its worth consideration be given to view it as a DA site under "best and highest use"
From their valuers experience government dealings on resumption/ acquisitions cases are very fair and reasonable … even saying he would consider buying property within areas knowing there may be a possibility of future resumption.. ….Go figure…… Maybe that should become another investment strategy………..….. lol
Figure there is an abundance of permabull thinking @ the Somers camp from posts here and I hope they do well in their chosen buy hold & hope mind-set, for many it’s a starting point and their circumstances, risk appetite and knowledge dictates if they broaden their approach and time frame their goals which ultimately come back to lifestyle hence 10, 20 let alone 30 years is a long time of hoping and like you it don’t fit in my strategy.
The world seems to be changing in microseconds compared with 30 years ago with instability/debt levels and may I say the doomsdayers turning property markets into a buyer’s market perhaps for years to come,
Matusik said recently “I cannot help feel that we have entered a different paradigm- one in which a dwelling is a home rather than a vehicle for speculation. If that happens, the term “real” estate will regain its true meaning”
Man that must have taken you a lot of your time to compile and thank you for sharing it. Sure it will help many in these forums…
For some of us non economists and simpletons ….how would you sum all that collective information up and what’s your gut feel in the short ( 12 mth) , med ( 3 year) and longer term?
DW….. Sleeping fine my friend ……lol…….have had some much stress in my life….. just manage to control and switch off to it….. But that's another long story……. Bank isn't drilling us on presales on this development… and I am not persuaded this development will attract investors but more owner-occupier market due to demographics location finish etc etc…. hence sales more likely to come in nearer completion…….. Construction costs coming in at 1.38 million Inc GST and certainly looking to lock in with builder next week to commence January… Interested to see your 3D and hope both our crystal balls are on the money