General consensus is that we meet somewhere central i.e. Adelaide in a coffee lounge, quiet bar, scout or similar hall, conference room or at someone’s house. My preference would be a Tuesday Night the first being 21st October 2003. This would give everyone a chance to slot it into their itinerary. Please, does any one know of a suitable place for about 15 to 20 people?
Items for discussion include
work out some aims & rules for the group, regularity of meetings & costs, agenda, committee, get to know each others specialties & preferences & experiences, mentoring or partnering, look at setting individual tasks & goals, getting special deals on Accountant, Legal, Broking, Valuing, property management, Quantity Surveying & financial planning fees & having Guest speakers on topics of interest to the group. Other possible advantages of the group could be starting a list of good prospective Investment Properties which you know about but are not in a position to buy at the moment but other members may find attractive. Also, set up a network of tradespeople for repairs of IP’s Plumbers, electricians, painters, carpet layers, curtain & blind sellers, hardware stores which will give good service and price to group members. I have left room for your ideas. We all need to be interactive in this, so we all need to contribute to get full benefit.
What ever you think about yourself you are absolutely right! (Similar to a quote already listed)
Give and you shall receive!
The list goes on and on but just a few to work on that I know one very successful person I know uses for himself. He is a best selling author on many books and travels the world filling halls with his talks. I attended some of his talks and once a hall was filled with about 2,000 to see him, I asked him if he was nervous. He said no he is excited. He told me after the talk that evening, that most people get the feeling of excitement mixed up with nerves. He would know his field of expertise is Psychology.
I just thought I would add to this old discussion hoping it will generate some more interest on investing in SA.
The prices here have gone up about 30% in the Salisbury area in the last 6 months and even Elizabeth, Smithfield and Deveron Park have also sky rocketed. Example the place I live in at Paralowie 4 months ago was valued at 130-140K now 170-180k. 12 months ago 90 k. Even tho the properties have gone up the rentals have stayed the same and the vacancy rate has risen also. That’s close enough to 100% rise in property value in 12 months.
I have done my sums and used my contacts with agents and just cant find a property to +ve here, maybe its just because I need to borrow all the money and pay the interest on the full amount?
I ordered mine on a friday, was told it would take about 2 weeks depending on stock. I got it the following Tuesday I think. The fastest anything has been delivered to me from the net .LOL
Second of all thanks for the book, again it has motivated me as I am sure it has many others. Although I have not been able to find properties at this point in South Australia after 3 weeks of looking nearly 24/7 doesn’t mean they are not there, just means I haven’t found them yet. I may have to go interstate to find them who knows.
Third Thanks for the forum that has given me much insight and some good contacts.
I don’t know if I would call it the Tall Poppy Syndrome kicking in, I would just say that some have different ideas to what you have.
I think the beauty about it all is some will put the effort in and others wont, the ones that choose not to, make more opportunities for myself to explore. Any one that expects to be spoon fed will fall down, if not now, then later when someone gets sick of feeding them. Half the fun is the self-gratification in achieving for oneself. In business I have found the most successful are the ones that start their own businesses rather then the ones that purchase a business. I believe that is because those that have started it have a real passion and did the hard yards. The ones that come in after just wana reap the benefits of someone else’s blood sweat and tears. I am not saying this is in every case, but certainly in the majority that I have noticed. I don’t have facts and figures on this its just my opinion and observation.
Keep up the good work Steve and remember one thing the more people you get through to the more cynics you will find. I’m certain the percentages are in your favour tho.[]
Regards
Peter (Bear) Ruwette
PS……. Its good to see you are reading the forum!
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I have to take a lo doc loan on my home for a deposit, I don’t have the cash for it. Basically I have to loan 100% of the purchase and fees.
Regards Bear
PS be careful what an agent tells u about rent I have noticed the vacancy rate advertised in the paper has doubled last couple of months. Agents may be working on rents 12 months ago and I believe they are on the way down. Do your sums on a rising interest market and a rising vacancy ratio and see what u come up with. If it’s still positive then go for it []……….Good luck mate.
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Steve’s book is very good.
Hey, not too many accountants would be writing a book on property investing in Australia. His book is VERY unique and valuable irrespective of where you think the market is at.
Maybe I would disagree on a couple of numbers like maintainance costs. Also he doesn’t factor things like building inspections & valuations into any of the costs. Not to mention admin. costs in running the business.
But then again, property investing for wealth/financial independence needs to be run like a business. Not a hobby. Otherwise you only get out of it what you put in…. OK?
BTW I live in Adelaide & have found about 10 +ve cashflow properties in one large country town here in SA using Steve’s 11 second formula, during my FIRST search for such IP’s online.
Unless the agents lied about the rent & price in their ads.
I just got to get my system together, and tell my missus what I’m doing, then I’m out there buying them, while the critics keep complaining fulltime in the online forums. (Psssst… A little secret – thank God they’re not out there buying them too…. )
Cheers,
David Paxton
New Homes Consultant
Sterling Homes
0412 853 395
Well it’s hard to calculate, as there are many varying factors as Steve points out in his book.
Interest rates
Water/council rates
Insurance
Management fees etc etc
The only advice I can give is don’t be afraid of large numbers, just work them as you would with small numbers, there is no difference however for some reason some people panic with large numbers.
If you bought Steves book, u would have received his calculator for working out deals in excel?
Maybe consider doing the calculation on one unit and multiply that by 16 as a guide or consider a partnership.
As long as the figures add up don’t be scared. Do you have an accountant you could contact?
Many professionals out there willing to help at a fee of course.
Hello fellow Adeladians. I am basically looking for a ‘time partner’. Whilst I have one very good investment in Greenwith, I am having trouble dedicating the time to comprehensive research for future aquisitions. I have plenty of equity/cash, but would really benefit from having a partner who could help source deals. I’m sure there are plenty of win-win’s available for the right team.
Summo – i’ll send you my email to add to your list. I would love to meet with some like minded individuals
Personally I think the facts and figures still add up.
However to make to make it work in today’s market I believe is more difficult then it was 3 years ago.
It can still work but at a much slower rate if the properties can still be found. So far and I have GOOD contacts in Real Estate here in South Australia and I have been looking nearly 24/7 for about 3 weeks and as yet to find one.
I think Steve’s book is a fantastic and I say he has done a great job in many ways, so this is not a negative comment about the book or about Steve’s approach.
I say Good on ya Steve for what you have achieved.
Regards Bear.
PS I am not giving up will I will find a +ve if it kills me ……….LOL
I am situated in the Salisbury area 15 minutes North of the CBD Adelaide South Australia. I have some very good contacts in the Real Estate world here.
In a nutshell I would expect honesty, reliability, friendship someone that is prepared to grow not just in the business world but also at a personal level. Some one that is open to new ideas, thinks outside the square.
I don’t wana be spoon fed but some advice support and maybe even some form of partnership if things went well.
Hopefully this answers your questions satisfactorily Andrew? If not feel free to drop me a line at [email protected]
Regards Bear
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which part of the world are you situated Bear and what do you expect of a mentor ?
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New investor here, looking for someone with equity and who will be an angel and interested in lending 10 or 20% for new investment purchases.
You will get a percentage pa of course and I am interested in a win-win situation. So if you have equity sitting there doing nothing, and are interested in making some money then we should talk. I will arrange the finance at my expense and should only need it for max 1 or 2 years.
If possible, I’ll be interested in more than one deal.
Hi Fivekids and Billfromoz
I hear what you are both saying, However I have sat on my hands long enough to scared to lose what I have while property has made so many financially dependent or even rich. I also agree about the Mentor being a great aspect of successful business but found alot of cloke and dagger in the industry and a lack of mentors.
Anyone willing to mentor this wet behind the ears but enthusiastic newbie? I have the drive and motivation and many skills, but a Mentor would make all the difference.
Join the club mate we all wana fast track it. Having said that the more work we put into it personally the more we learn and the greater the benefits! dont you think?