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    Hi there,

    Just a quick thanks for the links – both Arnaldo’s and Elvis’s links have been most informative reading…

    Thanks guys,

    BDM

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    Dear Kaza4k,

    Unless you get an enormously huge offer, the buy and hold concept ( which has several variations ) is a much better long term wealth option.

    Buy and hold can mean literally just that – hang onto the property and slowly over time the rents and the value increases, thus enabling you to buy more properties.

    Or it can mean “wraps” – which can be translated as “buy, hold, but sell really slowly”. Again, rents / payments and values increase over time, and you still win.

    Either is good. Selling over and over again involves too much work for not a guaranteed gain.

    This is purely my opinion, so feel free to argue with me !! :-)

    BDM

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    G’day Watto,

    Thanks for the link.

    I’ve filled in my details, and I’ll see what turns up too…. :-)

    BDM

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    Dear Moneytree,

    I agree with Hilary – what ever the asking price is, always make a lower offer.

    At best the offer will be accepted.

    At worst, you will haggle back up to the asking price.

    You’ll never know if they’ll accept a lower offer unless you ask !

    Thanks,

    BDM

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    Superman,

    My instant 2 cents on this impossible to resolve subject is…. units.

    I have 1 unit and 1 flat, plus the house I live in all here in Melbourne.

    My personal preference is units / flats because I enjoy being involved in the Body Corporate. As a member of the body corp – and preferably “chairman” – I can get the other owners to pay for improvemts to my ( and theirs as well ) properties !

    Steve is certainly correct in that dealing with the body corp and therefore other tennants can often take up some time. However, my experience is that the body corp “looks after” repairs/ renovations/ improvements / gardens / etc. If I have a certain ammount of control or influence over the body corp then this directly improves my investments, and indirectly the other owners investments as well.

    Houses ( with land ) can appreciate in value more than units, but not always. There are no real “common areas” that are the responsibility of anyone else other than the owner ( except maybe the fence ). Therefore, in theory, there is more to go wrong, and only the owner is responsible for fixing the situation.

    Having said that, I plan to buy a small house next time, but I forsee that I will own more units / flats than houses in the future.

    I also fully understand that others have different opinions. There is no right or wrong here. This is purely my situation.

    Good luck with yours !!

    Thanks,

    BDM

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    G’day Superman,

    You could try some or all of the following websites…

    http://www.realestate.com.au
    http://www.realestateview.com.au
    http://www.domain.com.au
    http://www.property.com.au

    These will certainly get you started. I hope this helps….. :-)

    BDM

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    G’Day,

    I have filled in the survey – it took about 6 seconds. At the end of the “survey” there is the standard online question of ” I agree to receive further promotional information….”. Just remove the tick ! Also there is an option of ” I don’t want anything else from the ANZ – just send me a free book “. This is the option I selected !!.

    I have read the book they sent me. The forword is by Robert Kiosaki, who most people here would have heard of – http://www.richdad.com – which I guess says something positive. Also it is an Australian book.

    It is certainly an interesting read, and I found it very informative. It explains the concepts of your money “personality”, which includes components from Spender, Careful and Savvy traits. It looks at many case studies of different people from each of the three “personalities”, how they got to where they are ( both good and not so good situations ) and what they can do to improve. It offers suggestions, hints and tips, and basically encourages the reader to identify what their money personality is, and then take responsibility for setting goals, and taking steps to work towards and improve their wealth potential. It is not a “property book”, but a mind set book for wealth accumulation – property, shares, managed funds, super, etc are all mentioned.

    It is a “real” book with 230 or so pages, and is well worth spending a minute filling in the survey. And even if ANZ send future junk mail, that can’t be too bad given they could be a source of OPM !

    My recommendation – do it !

    BDM

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    Dear Bruce,

    I presume that the rules on agents commisions in WA are similar to those in Melbourne where I am….

    Suggestion number one is to ring a few agents and ask. Don’t tell them your address or surname, but ring and ask. In Melbourne the initial offer by the agents is anywhere between 1.5 % and 4 % of sale price, plus advertising costs.

    As Steve has suggested in his point # 5, negotiate. If the agent asks for 4 % of final sale price, offer him/her 1.6 %. If he asks for 2.4 %, offer him/her 1.2 %, etc.

    Alternatively, make something up to suit you first, then the agent second.

    I use a “sliding scale” that has been very successful for me. I offer the agent this kind of scenario :
    0 % ( nothing ) up to $X, then 10% of everything between $X and the final sale price. The $X figure is negotiable.

    Or you could offer 5% of the difference between $Y and the final sale price, including advertising costs. Or make something else up yourself !!

    If you do your sums, and you know that the agent will always tell you that he can get $428 trillion for your house which you know is worth about $200 thousand ( or whatever ), you can use these or similar sliding scales to your advantage.

    RE Agents are great at selling houses, but most of them are really bad at simple mathematics. Use this fact, but do your sums BEFORE you even talk to an agent. Keep in the back of your mind that an agent is not going to agree with your offer unless he can see that it is potentially atractive to him. The “sliding scale” concept means that if the agent actually does sell your place for $428 trillion, then he stands to get more than his original offer of 4% of final sale price with your “sliding scale in place”. But this should not worry you, because he has got an obscenely high price for you ! And everybody wins ! If your place finally sells for $200 thousand as you correctly thought it would to begin with, then the agents commission is very, very low. And you win !

    Don’t set out to rip the agent off, and definately give him/her an incentive to get a good price for you. But do cover yourself, “just in case” the sale price is not as high as the agent originally suggested it would be….I used a similar scale like those above when I sold a house a year or so ago. I was very happy with the final sale price. The end result was that I paid $1400 in commission. Had I used the agents offer of 4% of final sale price, I would have had to have paid $4800 in commission.

    I hope this helps.

    BDM
    Melbourne,
    Australia

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