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    Meri I cannot PM (Private Message) you. Please enable PM's or PM me and I will return!

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    Hi Meri,

    Once you have an idea of what tha land may be potentially used for, another avenue possibly worth persuing is approaching a Valuation Company and asking them to prepare a Valuation for you. I did a letter to one recently asking them to address three scenarios of potential use for a large subdivision we have. This was then tabled at our Board Meeting. Did cost a few grand, but it is money well spent.

    I will PM you some details of the letter so you have an idea of how it was written. Hope it helps!

    Azalia

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     Thanks Terryw,

    Your right, I am seriously overcomplicating it!

    Better just to come to some private agreement about us adding value then sell and split profits proportionate to what value we added.

    When they first approached us about Vendor Financing it, they were going to loan us the money from their company (property in the company name also).

    Thanks for your help!

    Azalia

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    Thanks SNM I will do that.

    From what I can gather from conversation with one of the longstanding owner occupiers, When this hall was operational, the use of it had to be asked of the executive committee first. The users were responsible for preparing the hall for themselves then cleaning up after themselves so I dont believe there was any additional fees involved in regularly cleaning it. It sounds like it was an occasional use thing.
     
    I dont know how much value it would have to have it operational, but for me it was a bonus that this strata had this extra space available. I was toying with the idea of doing a survey to find out what people want done with it (if anything) and if they were willing to provide any time or help to do so. I was also going to ask what they would prefer to use the space for (gym equip,  recreation room, party room, other?).

    Anyone have any ideas, suggestions to add?

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    Good in theory, but definately have to do your own due diligence. I was so close to signing a deal that was very attractively cashflow positive. Apartment had a deal with taiwanese govt to provide accomos for uni students. 6 month lease renewed every 6 months along with rent review and so on. Discovered that apartment was one of many owned by a person in this complex who I suspect was selling each one off with this deal in place (to make it more attractive than the rest on the market) then in 6 months time, no lease renewal… student gets moved into another apartment in this complex,  though… owned by same owner! . . hmm?

    Too risky for me, and I my strategy not apartments anyway… good research though.

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    Dont get greedy, that is the trap that many have fallen into and then they get into trouble. Do your research and as suggested earlier go see your town planner as they will give you a rundown of what is needed and wanted in the area, and that will give you an idea of what to built, who to target and will be more likely to be approved by council.

    Do a feasibility study as this will give you a better idea of what costs are involved and what options would create the most profitable and desireable (based on what town needs / demands) result.

    I have done ccorp course, and now work with a development company. Given your property options involve development I would recommend that ccorp course would suit you and you would probably find it money well spent. Or you could JV with someone who already has some knowledge and experience in developments of that sort.

    I also agree that it would be beneficial to you to set up a Company to control the development as you certainly would not want to be at risk of losing your personal assets if you did it in your personal name and something were to go wrong!

    Seek professional advice!

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    Great thread! Though it has taken me some time to read through it!

    Of all my siblings I was the only one to get my first car myself, each of them (3) were given decent cars bought FOR them. 

    My first car was a 1980 Nissan Pulsar Hatch ($700 and hardly road worthy), then a 1997 Ford Laser Hatch (good car, got it cheap, ran well, but no aircon) that Hubby and I shared. Hubby bought a Jeep Wrangler new in 2006 through salary sacrafice.

    My dream car had always been a '98 MX-5 convertable. I got that model in the colour I wanted approx 1.5yrs ago and I love it. So fuel efficient and prevents me from buying too much when I go shopping (as the boot is TINY!). Was the car I had to have before we start a family. Funny thing worth a mention is that someone stopped me in a car park last week and made an offer to buy it from me for the same price I paid for it!

    Had hubby and I been interested/educated in Property Investing earlier on we probably would still have the Laser only, and have more properties – lesson learned!

    But we get good use out of the cars and they give us no trouble so we are not gonna loose sleep over it.

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    Hi Wayne,

    I did her course last year, approx June/July along with attending the Bootcamp in Sydney in August I think.

    Well since I made that comment about the support, I got an email saying they had not heard from me in a while and how was things did I need help etc. I did email back a question and I got a reply a few days later. I would assume from the changes in their structure recently that they have become more able to handle enquiries and provide support alot faster now.

    The beachside house had sold within 1 day!

    (Just thought I would make that more noticeable for anyone folowing this thread) Boss had it on hold for me for 1 day whilst I sought a buyer, but it sold straight away!

    I don't have a job title. I like to think of myself as an apprentice developer but I am more or less Personal Assistant to the developers here. I love it as I get exposure to everything and I am learning so much!!

    Good luck with your course. I found it to be a wealth of information!

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    Ok, I cannot private message you, so can you private message me and I will return your message with the details you asked! thanks

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    I hear what you are saying, have you seen a broker yet? I was just reading an article in the latest property investing magazine about a young lad who was in a similar position to yourself (Uni, PT work,deposit & very keen) He made it happen. I think he may have had to see a lot of brokers but he persevered and he got there in the end! I will PM you later and will pass on the details of my broker. He has been great for me so far and thinks with solutions, not problems.

    I will PM you details of what I am looking for too, if you can keep an eye out that would be greatly appreciated!!

     

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    Option fee is what you negotiate. Generally approx 1-5k or higher if you need to sweeten the deal. If you negotiate the option fee to be part of the purchase price then that is a bonus as option fee is generally extra and is non refundable if you do not go ahead with a Contract of Sale (as apposed to a deposit on a Contract of Sale).

    No formula, option fee is just what you negotiate, though some people will insist 10 – 20% but that is not true!

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    If you found those ++ CF properties for your dad, then can he put one up as a guarantee for you against your Home loan and you use your deposit, FHOG and Part Time earnings toward your PPOR for 6 months. Then you can move out of it, turn it into an investment property and if it is ++ CF then you dont need to pay anything anymore!

    You will only need to scrape by for the 6 months that you are in it, but it gets your foot on the property ladder and presents a solution to the bank.

    Another idea is that once you have your own property, perhaps you could ask for a percentage share in the property of the +CF deals you find for your dad, rather than taking a finders fee? Thats another way to get your foot on the ladder even if it's just a small step?

    Good luck!

    PS I am in Perth too and you are more than welcome to birddog ++CF properties for me! Also I am seeking potential development sites for 6 units/villas/houses or larger.

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    Thanks for the imput Airstrike, I just contributed to one of your threads :)

    Yeh I personally dont like the equity split of 60/40, I would much prefer to get an investment partner where the deal can be set up together and everything split fairly, I have more confidence with deals I have sought myself and done a full dd on rather than asking someone to find me something…

    Re Carly's course, In a nut shell I liked it. I took a gamble with paying the course fee but I am happy with the results so far, with her course under my belt I landed my current job at this development company (which would NOT have happened otherwise, by background is very different industry!). My boss's are brilliant mentors to me and have 80+ years realestate experience between them for me to learn from and they are always happy to share some tips and help me.   

    With that said, I dont think I would be confident enought to take the first steps on my own, even with the ccorp course, into development. I didnt get the support from ccorp that I expected I would. But then perhaps I am more conservative and/or needy than others?

    I have no regrets for having done Carly's course, but I am aware of others who have invested in it and done nothing. I guess it just comes down to the individual and whether or not they can use the data they learn!

    If I had not have done Carly's course, then I would have done Steve's RESULTS program and who knows, that may have handled my "fear" and taken me places a lot faster than I am going!!

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    Too bad you missed out Airstrike,
    I too missed out on a good deal mid last year (I even had the contract signed, but pulled out due to "fear" STUPID me!) if you ever need an option contract, I have a template that can be used and I can legally place caveats too (Im in Perth).

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    Have you bought yet?

    I am in Perth and I too was faced with the exact same situation you have right now. Do I buy land close to the city and subdivide down the track or do I buy new but far away? I had found a great block in Bayswater that was a triplex potential land with a free house on it. But dispite a thorough due diligence and due to the fact I would HAVE to live in it (cos of using the first home buyers grant) I gave this one a miss. It would offer no holding money as no one in their right mind would pay rent to live there after I had done the minimum home buyer live-in-it time.

    Another thing worth mentioning was that a friend of a friend had also bought in Bayswater and was currently undergoing subdivision, but he was having TREMENDOUS problems to the point where he is now living with my Best friends currently whilst he is getting it all sorted out. I dare say there was a lack of due diligence and research that contributed to this occurring but who knows – I have never had a conversation with him to find out exactly.

    I did have the option of purchasing in some of the newer estates throughout Perth (I work for a large land developer) but in the end chose a 2 bed, 1 bath newly renovated villa closer to my current home, in a suburb that has shown good performance, close to my family, 5 mins to city and close to work. It has been an investment property for the agent who is selling it to me, and it is in a good location so I feel I have taken a conservative and comfortable decision and feel happier to take a more aggressive approach in my next property purchase (perhaps something like the triplex block I found in Bayswater) that I wont necessarily have to live in.

    At the moment I personally have my eye on a couple properties that my boss is keen to handover possession of before June 30. In another post I have detailed that these are close to the beach, close to transport, in a new estate, qualify to use the $21k grant and include front landscaping and fence rebate. Per my calculations these are cashflow positive/neutral and I would have loved to have purchased this instead as it is green titled, alot bigger plus new and easier to maintain. But I have already signed on my new home and am due to settle next week. Also, personally, I would have had a problem with travelling further to work.

    Lastly, One thing that was brought to my attention by my boss was that if I wanted to buy and build thus using the 21k grant, I needed to sign up by the end of May because plans needed to be approved before the grant expires. You may want to keep that in mind, and if you have left it too late this may sway your decision to getting something closer to the City, using the 14k grant.

    Sorry if this is a bit of a rant, but I am just trying to share my thoughts and ideas of how I came to my decision. I am keen to hear what you decide! Good luck!

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    Contacted Rory from the details at the bottom of the article and he says the shared equity is only available to first home buyer :(

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    Awesome idea but EMF are not available to WA yet …
     
    However I will research to see if there is something similar in WA. I remember reading something like this about Keystart but I think that is only for first home buyers.

    Thanks for the suggestion!

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    Rent $350 min, $400 would also be acceptable. In my calculations I have factored in deductions from  depreciation and payments on an interest only loan.

    House plans are for 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom house, double carport, 269sqm Green title corner block.

    Development of the beach access including car park and kiosk etc has finally been approved (was pending for 7 years due to red tape) and this is underway now. So I would imagine this will have a positive effect on the value of surrounding beachside lots including this lot.

    I should also mention this lot does not have beach views, rather there is a gentle hill between the beach and this property, but this provides excellent buffering from coastal winds. 

    Any other info needed please let me know.
      

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    I have heard of this before, normally with a $1 rent, there is a clause that it is in place for 99years and includes that the tenants are fully responsible for all the upkeep and maintenance of the property.

    In the case I am aware of, it was for a government building in Perth city and it was severely in need of repair and renovation. It had to be restored to the heritage listing requirements. It may still be available (Old Treasury Buildingoverlooking Supreme Court Gardens).

    I would read the small print very carefully :)

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    Hi there,
    I have done her DVD course in it's entirety and attended the Bootcamp in Sydney July 2008. With this under my belt I landed a job at a Property Development Company in August. Her course and bootcamp is great and I got a great deal out of it. However in regards to the mentoring (or communicating to ccorp in general), I find the turnaround on email communication to be really really slow. I have not ever tried calling though. When I bought my course I believed I was getting 12 months mentoring from her personally, but now it is mentoring from one of her staff and I have not been happy with the mentoring so far. 

    To answer your question about her actual experience, She originally worked for Princeton Property Group for many years before forming CCORP. She also work's closely with Tony Melvin who works for Chan & Naylor accountants. Tony does regular workshops / seminars advocating the use of trusts and company structures to purchase property and assett protection. I would assume that Carly has all her property in those sort of structures.

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