thanks del – no i wasnt just rfrng to your post.
but you must admit that the captital gains have helped most forumites.
with regard to the new program. i think there is every chance we are going to see 10-20 pct growth in the next two years, as we have for the last 2 years. and hence there a big chance for success.
i will be interested in alonger time frame.
just to clarify – i think this approach ie positive cashflow, is a much more sensible approach to accumulating wealth/income streams etc then going into huge debt (-ve geared) – in the current climate.
i have noticed most of the success stories relate to amazing capital gains, and stories pertaining to renovations etc etc. and not superior cashflow.
even on the country properties where people started out thinking cashflow they have been pleasantly surprised by the capital appreciation.
in a way thats why i think steves strategy is difficult to evaluate because in the last 5 years we have seen incredible capital growth so it difficult times (ie vancancies etc) one can sell and make a tidy profit – no harm done.
the test will be does the strategy work when the market is flat. i think at the moment the ‘ideal’ of cashflow is a great hedge against where the real money is. ie capital gains!!
blue depends on yr servicability, what type of properties you wanna buy and a few other things. there are a few mortgage brokers on this forum who can give you the lowdown
remember if you take advantage of the first home ows grant you will have a nice house and all the great things that come with that. completely valid!
the downsize is that it will limit your potential to invest in the future because it will tye up or reduce your ability to fund other investments. ie
you will more than likely have a large mortgage and all your funds will go to servicing that.
if you were to buy an investment property and forgo the fhog, it is feasable using steves method and other +ve cashflow vehicles, that you could keep investing to build a large portfolio.
things to think about
– most people want a place to call there own – if this is you then buy a house to live in.
– if you want to maximise wealth all the investment books ive read recently suggest
a) yr home is a liablilty
b) only buy assets that generate income
c) cash flow is king
for your guide i believe steve still rents eventhough he owns 130 preoperties.
at the moment i rent and have decided to invest.
this is tough because i have a baby on the way and the pressure from yr peers/family etc to buy a ppor is immence. im lucky my wife is 100 pct supportive (i encourage her to read the books and take the journey aswell)
either way is valid but be prepared investing takes you out of your comfort zone
in steves defence im sure he is far to shrewed to let this happen. over the prceeding months the tone of his messages have changed and he has advocated exit strategies including selling, reducing debt, restruction loans etc etc.
not to mention all the other money he has coming in from products from this website, seminars and now the book.
the problem i have is that when steve started writing this book the strategy made a lot of sense and in a way it can be argued that it still does its just a little harder. what has never been said though is that maybe the goalposts have changed. believe me, the most switched on +ve geared property investors on this forum have drastically cut down their purchasing, are probably selling and know that steves appearnce on today tonight will have another affect on the market.
there was a post last month wch mentioned that everytime there was a property seminar then prices in regional cities went up. although no one has said it – i fear that since last week the same thing has happened and all you newbies will over the next few weeks kindly push up the property prices for those 2 years ahead of you.
i reckon a few on the forum will be selling in the next few weeks (profit taking)
matty i have the same problem. i call it first home owners anxiety. all the books and info i read suggest that intially you should only buy assets that generate income. thus a home does not fit that bill. it is difficult to sit back however and watch as house prices go through the roof. the upside is that the anxiety has mad we aware that i need to pay more attention to my personal finances. i plan on spending the next few years investing and learning b4 i buy a home. if i had an easy ride im not sure there would be the motivation to try a learn more about investing
ps – i do have 2 investment properties and a share portfolio – all accrued over the last 12 months
with regards to how high can it go – i think it can go higher but it can also drop significantly. you need to work out your propensity for risk and your goals.
i try and remind myself its not a race and that there will always be opportunites to make money whether that be now or in the future
the prurpose of buying an is mnot necessarily to achieve capital growth over the long term. it may be to generate cashflow. sometimes they are mutually exclusive. the trick os to find properties that do both. if you had bought a 20 year old 50k property in rural australia over the last 3 years this would have been achieved. it is harder now.
ange – by the look of your gross rental seems all your properties are negatively cashflow. remember when you negative cashflow it limits the number of properties you can buy. maybe you shld sell one of your properties and with the money pay down the other three. then you may find you go from 4 negative to 3 positive
unfortunatley im not experienced enuf or i would offer. with email u dont necessarily need someone from adelaide.
you cld do alot worse than westan and chandara and a few more online/telephone etc.
i think we are seeing an incredibly unique situtaion where the australian property market has boomed for many reasons. the fact that these reason have occurred at the same time is unprecedented
– record low interest rates
– weak stockmarket
– baby boomers with excess cash
– lifestyle changes
– strong world property market
– lifestyle media programs
– diy fads (bunnings warehouses)
– get rich property seminars/gurus (hundreds of them)
– more knowledge ie savvy investors
– legislation (fhog, negative gearing)
– awakening out of the ‘job for life’ years.
– lack of job security leads to thinking of other ways to make a buck.
– the internet (information easily available)
– Harry Kaye
– Eddy Maguire
ok – the last one was a long shot
if investors are pushing up the market, then its because of all the above reasons that investpors have chosen to do so. all are legitimate, its just that its getting a little out of control.