Very nice data put together, thanks for sharing. Ever done CPI adjusted numbers? Would be interesting to see 'real' growth. It's hard to estimate the chart going back that far…
Yes I have done CPI adjusted charts in cases, not going far back as 79 though I do have CPI figures back to 1985 or so. It's an interesting task but time consuming, once you take one step you need to take others potentially such as adjusting for interest rates and so on!
Probably the 2nd chart in terms of importance I would suggest would be yields over time.
There's been some renewed interest in the Brisbane market and more specifically new product leading up to the Jan 31 deadline (now extended till 30 April), however it appears as if the rate cuts were likely the most important factor in the new interest, they really do make a difference!
It was an incredible weekend, sorry you had to pospone Steve. I think you missed out on a heap of incredible content that Daniel does not normally discuss in this course but is reserved for the Masters course, but he felt that due to the significant nature of the current market, we should be aware and have a better understanding.
I wish I had met Daniel years ago, my life might look a bit different now but that's another story. I'm just glad I am now part of this system!
Hi Humungus, Interested to know how you have progressed since this last post?
The end of 2011 and the first few weeks of this year have been strong which is a great contrast to January 2011. Not clear if this will translate into a strong quarter but if it does that will be great as I personally know just how many people are sitting on the fence at the moment and waiting ( a lot). Some of the activity is due to the January 31st cut off date for the 10k boost for new product, though it seems like a large part of the activity can be attributed to the interest rate change of direction. Interesting to see if we can maintain this momentum!
Medians Nov 2011: Houses: $429,341 Units: $352,961
When I was younger I went to as many free seminars as I could afford to . I think it is a good way to learn. I still do go to free seminars whenever I can – went to a recent one by the ATO on SMSFs (they didn't try to sell me anything which was strange).
I love the ATO talks
Why are they worth attending? Never been to one and am interested in knowing what they are like.
I'm glad you didn't mention the name of the company as the answer is almost definitely to run away fast.
You will find with some digging genuine networking/education meetings relating to residential property where people might be advertising their business when they speak but there will be no hard sell and there will be plenty of genuine and experienced investors to network with, expect to pay a small to reasonable amount (in Brisbane it's $20 a night) for these type of events.
Hey Guys, Instead of starting a new thread I thought I'll post here I'm in my late 20s and have saved 30k of hard earned cash, with a current personal loan debt of 30k, which will be cleared by the end of 2012. My goal is to have zero personal debt (bikes, store cards, overdraft) and 50k in savings ready to invest. I have a stable income at an office job and will be running various online ventures to have multiple streams of income returning 25+ net % cash on cash. I love property and I love the idea of property investing. I want to make high returns in the market and squirrel the money into positive cash flow property or property for cap gains. My biggest issue is where do I start? What suburbs should I be looking at ? I would prefer to invest in VIC first as I live in Melbourne. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Great work. Starting from zero should never be scary in this country if you are under a certain well advanced age, and 20's certainly qualifies as young in my books
Also the fact that you are actually starting is huge, many don't. Good luck with your journey!
I have always received positive feedback about Jacque Parker, I'm regularly meeting potential clients and I'm always asking for their feedback on their experiences if they have employed a BA before.
hi scott and andrew just as a private buyer used to work in real estate and this worked well but there are always plenty of people who want to sell there hol andrew there will always be vendors.who want drug.money for there.home but there.also people.who want.a.quick sale
Yes that's true, they are definitely out there. Challenge is finding them, in terms of letter box drops specifically here's some data from a recent campaign of an investing colleague.
drops approx: 4k to a targeted geographic area responses: 5 buys: 1
Now that was an excellent buy by the way, would need a lot more data to be specific about anything but yes there are deals to be found always.
Firstly welcome to the forum and i hope you enjoy your time with us.
Certainly property investing can be adictive (trust me i bought 40 properties in 14 years) but half the battle is buying the right type of property. That is not say that a house is better than a townhouse is better than a unit but more to say that it is what suits your needs and risk exposusure.
One of the biggest issues with Companies you have listed is the question is what they are selling the right property for you or for them. Most of them offer house and land packages or land because it is very difficult to get a true valuation on the property and to see whether you are paying more than you should be and the balance is going to them by way of a commission.
Do any of them list or promote a 5 year old Townhouse in a good growth suburb – No and the simple reason being is the mian they are not Licensed Real Estate agents and therefore if they were they would only be able to earn a given commission. Secondly you would be able to compare prices from one Townhouse to another or one unit in the block to another and they dont want you to do this.
They will tell you that Bank valuers down valuer their properties on the instruction of the lender and to expect the property to come back at less than purchase price. You know it is worth more and you can revalue in 6 months time.
Well sorry that just isnt the truth.
Lenders do not instruct valuer to downvalue and a valuation is carried out merely to assess the lenders risk.
What makes me laugh with these organisation is they all seem to have someone on hand when you go to their office. You are chatting to the person giving the demonstration or sales talk and wow our Solicitor who can witness you signatures has just walked in or heh there is the in house finance broker over there in the corner and he can help you fill out those cross collateralsied loan applications.
Heh what the heck it is only money and well throw you house in as security for the first couple of loans and then you dont have to put any of your own funds in and well as i said before we know the valuer will down value the property but that sweet we can still get the deal over the line for you.
Yes time maybe something that you have a little off but my recommendation would be 2 fold:
1) Either look to engage a Buyers Agent someone who is acting for you and who can quote an amount up front for his / her services. You know what it will cost and as long as you feel what they come up with plus their fees is still a good buy you have someone do all the leg work.
2) Alternatively locate an area do a bit of reading on it and then call a couple of real estate agents and tell them to come to you with what they have listed. You can look through the properties and short list anything you want to have a look at. Give them your parametres up front i.e I want a 3 freehold bedroom Townhouse no older than 6 years old with single garage parking. You will be suprised what you can learn from a good agent. Yes sure they have a job to do and yes the earn a commission but let them start the process off by doing some basic legwork for you.
Get your Mortgage Broker to have you loan structure in play so you are ready to jump as soon as you find something and try and obtain a copy of the valuation. Not always possible but with many lenders you can even if you cant get hold of the valuation work out what the lender valued the property at. If not your Broker can always find out.
As i said in the opening paragraph remember you want to buy what is right for you and not what is right for the investment organisation to sell to you. They market new property for a variety of reasons but in the main it is because of the healthy commissions that can be earned and difficult to detect.
As Mesma mentioned the forum can be a wealth of free information.
Cheers
Yours in Finance
Well said!
I'm not sure how to add any more value other than 'trust but verify' with everything related to investing!
Great in theory, just making it work in practice is the challenge. Response rates from letter box drops are very poor and private sellers in the present market are mostly dreaming about their price in my experience. I have found better reponses from warm contacts, such as door knocking and talking with property owners directly.
Good luck Vet80, I could say volumes but it seems you are a smart person and there's already plenty written on the net and searchable about this company. It's a lucrative business if you are on the right side of the 'education' trade.
Surprised to know that this company was at an event organized and endorsed? by Steve, makes me view him in a different light now if that's the case.
For a solid dose of reality you could try 'Trade your way to financial freedom' by Van Tharp, corny title but solid fundamentals. Also the books by Brent Penfold should clue you in about what's possible in reality with a retail trader vs the markets.
I'm a novice here & willing to learn everything i can, I have time on my side being 22years old. So i wanted to see if anyone has done any investment courses ? And i wonder why all real estate agents aren't investors. Goes hand-in-hand.
You might think so but the reality is that most agent's aren't investors and a lot can't even think like one. Sales is all about marketing, however it should be one of the greatest ways to learn a golden skill (sales) and property investing at the same time for someone with the right mindset and perspective. Being a young investor is great, get out there and make lots of mistakes (small ones preferably but they can all be good) and learn! Never heard anyone say 'I wish I started investing later'