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    Thank you very much for the clarification.
    Very much appreciate the information thats been provided.

    Regards
    AM

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    One last thing – what are the thoughts around this

    – If you sell the old home within 6 months of purchasing the new home – both properties are covered by the main residence exemption;

    In my case, if I sell the Melbourne property within 6 months of the purchase of Brisbane property then:
    1) Melbourne property sale proceeds will be CGT exempt
    2) When I do decidde to sell the Brisbane property, then the sale proceeds from the Brisbane property will also be CGT exempt.

    Please provide clarification.

    many thanks
    AM

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    Thanks Terry. You have been very helpful and informative.

    AM

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    I understand. So in summary:

    1) When I sell the Melbourne property within the 6 year period, the sale event will be CGT exempt.
    2) The new PPOR in Brisbane will be subject to CGT (if and when i decide to sell it).

    What if, after a couple of years of selling the Melbourne property (for which the sale was CGT exempt), I decide to do the following:

    1) convert the PPOR in Brisbane in to an IP and rent it out.
    2) buy a new PPOR in Brisbane from the sale proceeds that I got from selling the Melbourne Property. Will this property be CGT exempt when I do decide to sell in the future?

    Many thanks
    AM

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    So I decide to sell the Melbourne Property and nomianate that property as my PPOR. the sale proceeds will be CGT exempt.

    What if, after 2 years, I decide to sell my Brisbane Property that I’m currenytly residing in. Will the sale of the Brisbane Property be subject to CGT?

    Thanks
    AM

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    Thanks Terry.

    So, I’m currently living in Brisbane. Thats my current PPOR.

    With the my former PPOR, now IP, I need clarity on the following:

    1) Can I claim tax deductions for the expenses incurred for the Melbourne Property Rental?
    2) In the event that I do decide to sell the Melbourne Property, will I be paying CGT?

    Many thanks
    AM

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    Hi All,
    What about the Bayside Suburbs in Brisbane? Cleveland, Victoria Point, Wynnum, etc.
    It seems that these areas have a good rental yield…. > 5%.

    Considering that I am based in Melbourne and am not that familiar with Brisbane Property Market, I’m seeking advice if these areas are worth investing in?

    Feedback on this will be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
    AM2778

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    Thank you superAndrew for the response and the details provided.
    I will surely use the tool that you have provided and also look into doing the legwork to gain an understanding

    Thanks heaps for the advice.
    Much appreciated.

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    Jate,

    I could not agree more.

    I would like to reduce the LOC secured against the PPOR and continue to use only the LOC secured against the IPs..

    The problem that I'm facing is that the there is not enough Equity built up in the IPs to get a LOC and use the funds in the LOC to pay down the PPOR LOC.

    Perhaps, its just the market conditions.

    Thanks all for your inputs.

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    No particular reason. My guess is that freeing up the PPOR LOC with the IP LOC will have 2 benefits:

    1. Can use the PPOR LOC for another IP pruchase – IP 2.
    2. Have Cash flows of the IP 1 (rent and Loan Repayments) come out of IP 1 LOC.

    No. PPOR LOC does not have a high rate …

    Thanks

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    Terryw wrote:
    You will have to be very careful as the ATO could deny deductibility.

    have you seen TD 2011/D8
    http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?docid=%22DXT%2FTD2011D8%2FNAT%2FATO%2F00001%22

    Thanks Terry. I will forward this ruling to my accountant.

    However, I think what I'm trying to get at is:

    If the IP IO Loan Repayments are coming out of LOC and all the outgoings on the IP are also coming out from the LOC, then

     How do I manage the diminishing LOC?
     LOC at some point has to be re-fliled. Does this mean that the Rent from the IP has to be put in to the LOC?

    cheers
    AM 

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    Terryw wrote:
    What is your reason for using the LOC to pay interest on your investment loan?

    Cash Flow Management for one, offset to reduce repayments in to the PPOR. Also, if not from LOC, then from where should the IP repayments come out ?

    Thanks

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    Terryw wrote:
    Do you mean you are taking the IP repayments from the LOC?

    Have you had advice on this or taken out a private ruling?

    If you keep going the limit will be hit on the LOC, then you will hopefully have paid down your PPOR loan by an equal or higher amount and may be able to get a new LOC or increase the existing one.

    yes thats correct. IP Repayments are coming out from the LOC.
    According to my Accountant, this is allright and is allowed by the ATO.
    Rental income goes into the offset. The LOC pays all the IP expenses including interest only loan on the IP.
     
    So hence my question, is there a level that needs to be maintained in the LOC to not allow it to diminish?

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    Terryw wrote:
    Am,

    Do you meant the LOC will slowly be used up and the funds available will be diminishing?

    That would be the case. But even then there would be no reason to pay down the LOC. You would just want to pay the interest each month. If you do start paying it down you would be diverting cash which you could otherwise use to pay down personal debt = more tax payable.

    Since interest is charged monthly i don't see any difference in paying at the end of the fin year or at the begining

    Thanks Terry.
    I am paying the interest each month for the LOC. However, the funds are dimnishing in the LOC as a result of the IP IO Repayments and other outgoings.
    My concern is that the LOC will keep diminishing upt to a point where it will be necessary to make additional repayments in to LOC to sustain the IP Repayments.

    Is there a strategy to refill the LOC not to allow it to diminish up to a certain limit?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Thanks Terry.

    A follow up to your response:

    At some point, the LOC will be getting thinner with all the Outgoings- i.e.IP IO Repayments coming out of LOC. So, I would have to payback some amount in to the LOC to sustain Outgoings from the LOC.

    If this is correct, then would it matter when I put in money into the LOC? Beginning of the Financial Yr or the Middle of the Financial Yr? Will this affect the deductibility?

    Many thanks
     

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    I can understand the Capitalisation of Interest for the "Capital Costs" and the "Borrowing Expenses" from the LOC. This can claimed upto 5 yrs.

    However, with all the outgoings for the IP (Water, Rates, etc.) + IP IO deductions coming out of the LOC, I assume that these outgoings would have to be paid back. That way the Outgoings for the next Financial Yr can start getting deducted from the LOC.

    Clarification on this would be greatly appreciated.

    cheers
    AM2778

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    No the rent is going to the offset account linked to the PPOR.

    So, if  I do recieve a refund as a result of negative gearing, do I put it straight back towards the LOC?

    Basically, any outgoing expenses incurrend in a Financial Year (Year 1) have to be paid back or can the expenses be carried over to the next financial year (Year 2)?

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    I have been on the lookout for a good reference for really good Property Tax Accountant in the Western Suburbs of Melbourne.
    Surely, somebody can recommend a good Tax Accountant

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    We contacted – "Property Pursuit". They are located in Paddington.

    Very professional.

    Website – http://www.propertypursuit.com.au"

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    InvestmentPupil wrote:
    Ben – I believe so, otherwise they won't be called a Bank and but instead a Pot-of-Gold-Free-4-All :) AM2778 – Not sure why you're not having your repayments coming direct from your offset instead? (if you're paying off your LOC loan with your LOC, you're capitalizing interest are you not?). I think ATO does not like that…(could be wrong)

    I have structured the Loans like this:

    1) Rental Income goes into the Offset  ($1400)
    2) LOC Pays for all the IP Expenses including the Interest Only Loan. ($1800)
    3) LOC Interest Only Repayments get debited from the Offset Account. ($126)

    Leaves a deficit of $1674 on LOC.. Do I pay the $1674 back in to the LOC??

    AM2778

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