I have just terminated a contract and I know from the bank that i cabn only borrow sround $220 000.
I live in Brisbane and these days I can’t even get one project for this price that would come with many problems, more then its worth let alone do what you suggest and do many reno project simul.
I wonder how people like myself could get into this investing game ?
Cheers
Joe Cool – keep trying. I am seeing opportunities on the northside of brisbane – houses for as low as 220K – 250K (Asking price, not sale price!)
So keep looking – there’s probably units out there that are cheaper than that too.
Terryw – I guess that’s why my broker jumped all over my innocent question and beat the hell out of it real quick. Like the rhino’s on “gods must be crazy” putting out the fire.
Anyway it was an innocent question – my intent is not to wrap at the moment, but we’ll see.
Thanks SteveSharyn – I got a dep schedule done on the new one – and the depreciation is pretty good.
However the older one might not be worth it as it is in my wife’s name (no income to reduce tax on).
I’ll consider it for the future though. Cheers
alwayscurious
Calvin@34.
I agree in that case Xcoll could be more restrictive. It does give the banks more security. It also is a tool to avoid taking out cash and putting 20% deposit, if it doesn’t suit your circumstance.
I think it’s the only thing that got me this far though. I only saved cash for 1 deposit – in my PPOR. I ‘used equity’ in a cross collateralisation technique spelled it right first time!, rather than withdraw cash and deposit on the IP’s.
The investment properties are at the stage now when my own house could be removed from the XColl mix, which would suit me nicely but make no difference as to the banks power to repossess if I go with a professional package at the same bank.
According to Stuart Weymiss’s site- the banks can only repossess your home quickly if the names in which the loan in are the same as your IP loans.
There’s pro’s with going with the same bank – might be able to broker a better deal, and pro’s to going with seperate banks for home and IP’s.
I guess it depends on your risk level.
My thoughts:
I could change the loan for the PPOR in my own name, set it up as interest only, put the P&I ‘repayments’ into an offset account, have the IP’s as interest only in my wife and my name, then when we move again, take out the offset account money to put into our new home as deposit, and rent out our old home as a renter.
The bank would have “chinese walls” against my own home because
A) it is not Xcollaterlised with the two IP’s on setup, and may not need to be. it is ONLY in my name.
C) the IP’s loan is in both names (with apportioned interest to whoever ‘owns’ the IP, my wife or myself. <C was my broker’s idea>
Creative. Saves non-deductible interest.
Allows a ‘way around’ the age old problem of ‘renting out your own home’ with minimal
Sounds good to me!
Issues are:
If I want to buy another property and don’t have enough equity in
A) my own home both IP’s combined
then I will have to XColl again?
I think I will be releasing my own home from the mix to free it up for a while. Until the next purchase, but we might have enough equity in the two IP’s combined to avoid putting our own home in the mash.
Woah. I think I just busted a blood vessel.. [wacko]
Too fast for me aussie rogue! I was thinking the same thing – I’ve met many an agent who has a degree in BS. heheh.
In fact, it’s a prerequisite for a lot of things!
True that banks do and will foreclose. It’s up to me to be proactive. If I get into trouble through being silly or over-stretching then I need to do something about it.
However – the counter argument is that banks will rather keep you as a paying customer and may give you a loan repayment holiday or other to avoid the cost & hassle of selling the thing?
I am currently considering the following:
Professional package. ($300 P/year) Which bank?
allows a single LOC facility for all IP’s and you can apportion the interest to different borrowers (ie my wife and myself).
I can add and remove new IP’s into the mix at will.
Also – Allows a sigle facility against my home which will enable me to have a simple P&I against my home (similar to what I have now) at a very good intro rate, and good ongoing too. better than I have previously been quoted.
(nice idea stuart BTW to put the money in an offset instead of paying off your own home, I don’t know if I could trust myself not to spend it though! !!)
I will consider all your replies but the message i am getting is
A) Cross securitisation is easier to spell. It’s a technique used by banks who love security, and also to increase customer retention
C) it can be “Fixed” by having cash deposits or by re-financing the whole lump of properties at once, but this can potentially be a hassle.
Basically – the window glass holds a film of smoke also! – we washed all the windows, and the curtains (hand washed, carefully & line dried in the same way they hang.)
Once we’d vacuumed the house a few times, all the smell was gone. But it took a fair bit of effort.
In another situation, (smoke damage from fire, pong!!) we did the same thing, but washed the walls & ceiling with sugar soap
We didn’t high pressure the walls, we filled the bath with sugar soap and used a flat microfibre mop (like enjo mop, but from woolies so it’s about 1/23049 the price)