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    Weekly Rent x 500 <= purchase price.

    IE weekly rent = 100$ per week.

    Times 500 = 50,000.

    Purchase price should be no more than $50,000

    If you quickly do the maths it’s EXACTLY THE SAME as the ’11 second formula’
    which is

    weekly rent divided by 2, times 1000 <= purchase price.

    :)

    Cheers
    alwayscurious.

    In my opinion Steve’s books & courses etc are better value for money.. Especially as I went to the book launch in Brisbane which was FANTASTIC

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    That’s a pity Michael – I’ll be there still if anyone wants to meet up later

    alwayscurious.

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    you’ll recognise me by the dummy in my mouth and the puzzled expression. Plus the fur.

    Perhaps a nametag with your nicname would be good?

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    I have a penchant for books. I’ve gone on a spree this month – purchasing about $50 worth of books (from ebay, at least I got them 1/2 price!!)

    So that’s my deal. And I like sushi. a bit. And a bit of curry takeaway once a fortnight or so.. erm.. ahem. and ..

    I will justify it tooth and nail. :)

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    Originally posted by JoeCool:

    Hi Steve,

    I have just terminated a contract and I know from the bank that i cabn only borrow sround $220 000.
    I live in Brisbane and these days I can’t even get one project for this price that would come with many problems, more then its worth let alone do what you suggest and do many reno project simul.
    I wonder how people like myself could get into this investing game ?

    Cheers

    Joe Cool – keep trying. I am seeing opportunities on the northside of brisbane – houses for as low as 220K – 250K (Asking price, not sale price!)

    So keep looking – there’s probably units out there that are cheaper than that too.

    Cheers
    alwayscurious

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    Terryw – I guess that’s why my broker jumped all over my innocent question and beat the hell out of it real quick. Like the rhino’s on “gods must be crazy” putting out the fire.

    Anyway it was an innocent question – my intent is not to wrap at the moment, but we’ll see.

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    Thanks SteveSharyn – I got a dep schedule done on the new one – and the depreciation is pretty good.
    However the older one might not be worth it as it is in my wife’s name (no income to reduce tax on).

    I’ll consider it for the future though. Cheers
    alwayscurious

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    Enough so I ALWAYS have some in my hand to give away.

    That’s when I reckon it’ll hit home.

    It’s not a pie, it’s a pipe, I reckon.

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    WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT!

    The shares sold and money deposited last night – 21K! Woo – 3K more than I thought.[thumbsup2]

    I think I will go and blow the whole lot on hats [cap][buz2][cowboy2][grad][xmas][party]

    We’ve budgeted that we can hold our properties at 18K and we have more now so that’s FANTASTIC.

    We’ll be able to re-invest some of that into our own home loan!

    YAY YAY YAY

    Sorry, it’s been a stressful time and we’ve been a bit worried about it.

    Thanks for your advice everyone.

    You guys ROCK. I ROCK TOO!
    woo.
    woooo…

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    It seems like a good tactic.
    Do you have the cash to do the deposit? and the purchase costs?

    If you have to borrow the entire amount like I did, *use equity* then you are effectively borrowing 100% and more than likely it could be neg. geared.

    CHeers
    alwayscurious

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    Well done Sonja. you have made a choice for FAMILY FIRST and this is what you are investing for anyway.

    Another opportunity for you is right around the corner.

    I am impressed with the calibre of people on this forum – often times it’s not just about the money.[thumbsup2]

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    What’s Bump one week?

    Is it on the 28th still?
    I am going to try to make this one.

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    Just checked out a few stats for those who are interested>

    Rosebury has 1300 people.

    According to one site:
    There are two groups – a) miners
    b) unemployed / pension / retired.

    Lots of people moving from within the state because of cheap housing

    Two mines tin & zinc – one owned by Pasminco (under receivers, bought out by Zinifex)

    Zinifex (formerly Pasminco) zinc mine. Tel: – (03) 6473 2222

    and the soon to re-open Bluestone tin mine (formerly Renison Bell) Tel:- (03) 6473 2732.

    This website said that the miners work a four day shift and stay elsewhere in the state usually.

    Lots of transient type housing required?

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    Calvin@34.
    I agree in that case Xcoll could be more restrictive. It does give the banks more security. It also is a tool to avoid taking out cash and putting 20% deposit, if it doesn’t suit your circumstance.

    I think it’s the only thing that got me this far though. I only saved cash for 1 deposit – in my PPOR. I ‘used equity’ in a cross collateralisation technique spelled it right first time!, rather than withdraw cash and deposit on the IP’s.

    The investment properties are at the stage now when my own house could be removed from the XColl mix, which would suit me nicely but make no difference as to the banks power to repossess if I go with a professional package at the same bank.

    According to Stuart Weymiss’s site- the banks can only repossess your home quickly if the names in which the loan in are the same as your IP loans.

    There’s pro’s with going with the same bank – might be able to broker a better deal, and pro’s to going with seperate banks for home and IP’s.

    I guess it depends on your risk level.

    My thoughts:
    I could change the loan for the PPOR in my own name, set it up as interest only, put the P&I ‘repayments’ into an offset account, have the IP’s as interest only in my wife and my name, then when we move again, take out the offset account money to put into our new home as deposit, and rent out our old home as a renter.

    The bank would have “chinese walls” against my own home because
    A) it is not Xcollaterlised with the two IP’s on setup, and may not need to be.
    B) it is ONLY in my name.
    C) the IP’s loan is in both names (with apportioned interest to whoever ‘owns’ the IP, my wife or myself. <C was my broker’s idea>

    Creative. Saves non-deductible interest.
    Allows a ‘way around’ the age old problem of ‘renting out your own home’ with minimal
    Sounds good to me!

    Issues are:
    If I want to buy another property and don’t have enough equity in
    A) my own home
    B) both IP’s combined

    then I will have to XColl again?

    I think I will be releasing my own home from the mix to free it up for a while. Until the next purchase, but we might have enough equity in the two IP’s combined to avoid putting our own home in the mash.

    Woah. I think I just busted a blood vessel.. [wacko]

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    Too fast for me aussie rogue! I was thinking the same thing – I’ve met many an agent who has a degree in BS. heheh.
    In fact, it’s a prerequisite for a lot of things!

    ‘Fortune favours the brave’

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    When I broke a lease managed through a RE, I had to pay rent AND advertising until they found a new tenant.

    I rang the PM every day though until he did! :D

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    True that banks do and will foreclose. It’s up to me to be proactive. If I get into trouble through being silly or over-stretching then I need to do something about it.

    However – the counter argument is that banks will rather keep you as a paying customer and may give you a loan repayment holiday or other to avoid the cost & hassle of selling the thing?

    I am currently considering the following:

    Professional package. ($300 P/year) Which bank? :)
    allows a single LOC facility for all IP’s and you can apportion the interest to different borrowers (ie my wife and myself).
    I can add and remove new IP’s into the mix at will.

    Also – Allows a sigle facility against my home which will enable me to have a simple P&I against my home (similar to what I have now) at a very good intro rate, and good ongoing too. better than I have previously been quoted.

    (nice idea stuart BTW to put the money in an offset instead of paying off your own home, I don’t know if I could trust myself not to spend it though! !!)

    I will consider all your replies but the message i am getting is

    A) Cross securitisation is easier to spell.
    B) It’s a technique used by banks who love security, and also to increase customer retention
    C) it can be “Fixed” by having cash deposits or by re-financing the whole lump of properties at once, but this can potentially be a hassle.

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    We had the same thing.

    Basically – the window glass holds a film of smoke also! – we washed all the windows, and the curtains (hand washed, carefully & line dried in the same way they hang.)

    Once we’d vacuumed the house a few times, all the smell was gone. But it took a fair bit of effort.

    In another situation, (smoke damage from fire, pong!!) we did the same thing, but washed the walls & ceiling with sugar soap
    We didn’t high pressure the walls, we filled the bath with sugar soap and used a flat microfibre mop (like enjo mop, but from woolies so it’s about 1/23049 the price)

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    So neither of the two tactics are really better than the other – it just depends on where you are starting from?

    IE – we started with not too much equity in our PPOR (about 60K equity on a 180K house)
    we cross collaterliased for IP 1.

    Then IP 2 – we went to purchase even though we had about 80K Equity in PPOR and 20K in IP1.

    Then, when we re-financed IP1 to interest only, the bank Cross coll. (sp?) back to IP2 as well!

    So now they are all tangled up with each other.

    Not too big a deal I guess.

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    Oops sorry Terry – you told the same story I did, except shorter and more to the point. Sorry.

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