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    Thanks Millsy,

    He’s situated perfectly for me if I end up purchasing in hamilton… thanks again.

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    Cheers guys,

    I’ll get right onto that literature now.

    Thanks again[strum]

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    Thanks Nobleone

    I’ll get in contact with hime when we’re ready to go ahead with things. Lots of help, cheers.

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    Thanks Steven,

    a very straight forward answer, I appreciate that.

    There was osme good information from Kiwiproperty in that thread as well,

    cheers,

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    Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.

    They’re good three q’s to ask [biggrin]

    cheers, Alex

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    as I work for the bank, probably 1% difference. allowing me to have approx 8% int rate for the personal loan

    I realise for others this may not be the most desirable int rate for money used as a deposit.

    Getting back to the original question, by the sounds of it this is not a regular practice that you’ve used or seen used?

    Originally this was put to me as a way to purchase the first property because you have no issues with getting through the bank’s beaurocratic formailities of the first property purchase. you would then own the initial property outright as the personal loan is not secured. You would then have that first property security for the next, allowing for a surplus of equity.

    As you mentioned before, servicability is a concern when using personal loans as you have unsecured debt at a higher interest rate. Once you have a roll on, you would payout the personal loan with the home loan secured against the property. The strategy is a starting strategy, allowing for that well needed roll on.

    Can you see that this would not work?

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    as I work for the bank, probably 1% difference.

    I realise for others this may not be the most desirable int rate for money used as a deposit.

    Getting back to the original question, by the sounds of it this is not a regular practice that you’ve used or seen used?

    Originally this was put to me as a way to purchase the first property because you have no issues with getting through the bank’s beaurocratic formailities of the first property purchase. you would then own the initial property outright as the personal loan is not secured. You would then have that first property security for the next, allowing for a surplus of equity.

    As you mentioned before, servicability is a concern when using personal loans as you have unsecured debt at a higher interest rate. Once you have a roll on, you would payout the personal loan with the home loan secured against the property. The strategy is a starting strategy, allowing for that well needed roll on.

    Can you see that this would not work?

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    St George (and ANZ), I believe, have a product called the get set loan: a personal loan at 12.2% with a Max of $50k which is allows the customer to draw on the funds and make a minimum I/O payment on only the funds they use. There is no term on the loan as it is a line of credit. Whatever funds you draw on are the funds you incur interest on.

    I should have explained this to begin with.

    As you can see though, for a short term answer for a deposit this particular loan can be very effective.[biggrin]

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    the personal loan is a line of credit loan at 8% unsecured. You’re right though, a line of credit at 6.5% would be more effective, however it needs to be secured against something, this loan is not.

    This allows me to use it for the initial deposit for such properties like commercial which need a larger deposit due to less LVR.

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    Is what you’re leaning towards: forgetting the personal loan altogether and focusing on each property seperately, therefore extending the loan as far as you can take it over the equity of each seperate property??[blush2]

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    1. Personal Loan is just as competitive as home loan int rate as I work for the bank, probably 1% difference. This then allows me to have the main part of the home loan as a st var, I/O or P&I, while maintaining the overdarft as the source of deposits.

    2.Having the money paid off the home via the personal loan allows me to free up equity for the next property if there was a lack of deposit for instance…

    Does that make sense, is there a better way to go about it without a surplus of funds as deposit?

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    Thanks guys[^] Lots of help, I’m seeing the accountant in the next week or so… will raise the same questions with him. We should always seek the right advice in correspondance to what we want to achieve.
    Some of you mentioned the fact that you can’t halve the CGT, there are also many other tax and income advantages with a company based on the periods that you get taxed. Under a company name tax isn’t paid until the end of the financial period and so therefore can be offset against a loss. This can be quite effective when looking to raise your asset collumn while manipulating your tax benefits effectively.[:o)]

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    Originally posted by kaloni:

    Originally posted by Leswon:

    WOW!!
    These people must be on MASSIVE wages to be able to afford this kind of rent. I’m probably talking more then, about the people on an “average” or should I say “Low” wage. Many people only bring in around $400 pw as a wage!
    Les[:D]

    I live in Malvern Vic
    rents for a 3br house start at about $400 pw
    and go up to $800pw !!!!!!!!!!

    Dead right, $300 ow seems small for the amount rental rates have gone up in the past few years. In Concord, Sydney and surrounding areas such as Breakfast point and Cabarita, which a few years ago were industrial on the water, now fetch $600 pw for 3br appartment. Just depends on where you’re putting your money and whether you budget affectively to be able to continue with your daily life and investing.[^]
    I can’t afford it at the moment, though with the fantastic scenic views along the beach (Bronte or Tammaramma) if at some stage I can financially justuify it, I’ll make the move.[;)]

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    Cheers Scully, lots of help….[^]

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    Cheers Simon[:D]

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    Scully, wuold you look at getting another valuaton in such short time had you only done a minor amount of work on the property, ie Paint job and small restorations in order to raise property price. Obviously it will depend on the house itself whether you think it’s worth your time and money… what I’m getting at is how relevant do you think think the small things are which make a house look really appealing when it comnes to raising the valued price??

    cheers SIS, I’ve followed a lot of your threads in the past few months, learning heaps… keep it up!![^]

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    Redwing made a really good point earlier: If we all Watched every dollar we spent, we’d be a whole lot better off. The silly things which we don’t even think about become the items we lose the most money to. These are the things which (If we saved the money) would become the cash for the next deposit. That’s one thing I make sure I keep in mind when purchasing any luxury… “Will buying this draw out the time between the purchase of a property which would bring in enough returns to buy ten of this product???”[;)]

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    Cheers guys.[^] on the topic of re-valuations, many banks/lenders I’ve heard have an issue with re-valuating a property within six months of their last valuation.
    What can you do to hurry this process up when in need of freeing up equity??[?]

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    None of the properties I’m sourcing at the moment are from my home town. Sydney is a very hard city to find +ve cashflow properties (I will never say that it is impossible, nothing is[}:)]) and for those looking to purchase in Sydney for CG we were the lowest in growth last year and are predicted to be this year. I’m finding good yields about 3-5 hours out of Sydney and in other states.[:D]

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    By increasing the property value, you increase your borrowing power.
    Instead of resting on my example, lets throw around a couple of better ones. that was the idea of the thread, not to get caught up on one example.[^]

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