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    clones smells like scamp!

    flaming is against the rules, cut it out girls

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    Buy another IP at the low end of the market, then rent both properies out. You move into a rental property slightly bigger then what you have now. you will need to change your current home loan to Interest Only and make sure that your new loan is also interest only.

    Benefits:
    Both Loans are tax deducable
    The rent you collect from one IP pays for you rental home but its tax deducable

    Some handy links for you to read
    http://www.theage.com.au/news/property/home-in-on-tax-lurk/2008/07/28/1217097144054.html
    http://www.ato.gov.au/corporate/content.asp?doc=/content/86191.htm

    The longer you can deal with living with what you have, the better. New cars depeciate like you wouldnt believe! I go from one $500 car to the next and im way infront

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    Just make sure you buy a property with an 18 month lease allready on it

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    i have never been to a seminar that i have had to pay more than 20$ for and didnt provide a free cup of tea.

    Put the money you would of spent in you offset account and go to the library and read some articles you will learn more i bet

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    hi snowy welcome to the site, my tip is read read read read and the read some more, knowledge is power! most  importantly these are public forums, the person behind the posts could be anyone and thier opinions are worthless, get to know the frequent advice givers and you will learn to ignore the "scamps"

    welcome!

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    Linar is right,

    if you are looking to build your career on property go to tafe, most tafes run night classes and allot of the study can be done at home. You should also look into studying for a real-estate license and business courses.

    It takes time to learn everything, no short course will give you all the answers and is most likely to send you out the gate with 2 much go and not enough know. Put in the hours of study get some certs along the way and hey if your ip's aren’t doing so will u have the tickets to get a decent job :)

    The price of the courses are outrageously cheap, tafe equals out to I think 67c per hour of tuition and for that you get to network with real-estate agents, developers and other investors. Most of the best partnerships I have formed are from people I studied with at tafe

    so that’s my literal 2 cents (about 2 minutes of tafe tuition)

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    ive been looking at individual houses and villas for like 50-70 lakh, i dont know much about it and i dont know any agents but if you eventualy find you way and your looking for a running mate im keen

    http://classifieds.sulekha.com/chennai/alllocalities/real-estate/individual-houses/adlistings.aspx
    http://www.magicbricks.com/property/city/p/p~p!ct~5196!/Chennai.real-estate

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    that was a nut that hit your head scamp not the sky

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    Is it possible to get a lease on an off the plan property that is for a FHOG buyer?

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    Think of equity as a security against the loan, your equity is your share of the apartment so, You get a new loan secured against your share of the apartment for 100% finance of your new property.

    So yes if you buy the new property you will have 2 loans 190k+400k = 590k total

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    wobbles wrote:

    Thanks Adld:

    We are just getting ready to put our offer in for this property….looks like he's won this particular argument.

    So we'll see how it goes…if we become property investors…and then contact you for a chat?

    W

    sure mate, im about to settle on my 1st IP and I have a 2nd in the works, looking for a 3rd! but i'm still new at the game! im interested to know how the camperdown property goes! 

    cheers adld

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    congrats! i wish you all the best! be sure to keep us updated of your progress!

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    fandibong wrote:

    Anyone knows how long the minimum I need to keep the property as Owner Occupied before I can switch to Investment, without losing my FHOG?

    I always wonder why people don't buy as owner occupied, claim FHOG, then say after 2 years switch into investment and takes benefits from the Negative Gearing?

    That means you can take advantage of both worlds

    you need to live in the property for 6 months starting within the 12 months from the settlement date. meaning you can move into it in and stay there for 6 months and the FHOG people will approve the money they gave you, just collect bills/rates/anything with your name and the address on it and send it all your away and then its done, You are free to rent it out.

    Changing your loan to I/O is normaly very simple, most lost loans offer an I/O period 3/5/10 years as an option you can evoke. talk to your bank about this then from the date you rent out your PPoR is then Tax Deducable.

    The problems then comes further down the track because if you want you can claim it as you PPOR because you lived in it for the 6 months (hopefully value adding, CG) and claim this when you eventually sell the property CGT free (only the protion of the growth for that time period). for this you must apply the 6 year rule for renting out your PPoR and depending on you state you may need to live in the property for longer then 6 months in the first 5 years to be able to claim it as you PPoR

    Remember to get it independantly revalued each time to change phases eg;

    Buy the house –  revalue @ 200000
    6   months of living in the house (value adding) – revalue @ 215000
    12 months of renting – revalue @ 220000
    12 months of living the in the hosue (value adding) – revalue @ 235000
    18 months of renting – revalue @ 250000

    Over 4 years you gained 50k CG but because it was your PPoR (and u lived in it) during the main growth peiods, 30k of the CG will be tax free and only 50% of the remaining 20k will be liable for CGT
    <br /:)” title=”>:)” class=”bbcode_smiley” /> this is an example only, remember to do your own homework!

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    gotta love the people who pull over on the side of a main hwy to take photo's of cows or sheep.

    you can even see the look on the animals face "WTF?"

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    hey wobbles, im allso from south western vic. let me know if you want to network

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    Link to Explain

    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/00096541.htm&page=3&H3

    Link of Form

    http://www.ato.gov.au/businesses/content.asp?doc=/content/6650.htm

    I recommend you visit an accountant, they will be able to explain the do’s and dont’s in detail and help you fill and submit the form

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    you will want to get it revalued so that you can prove the growth in the property while it was your residence and get in CGT free. any growth in the period it is being rented out if liable for CGT. you can rent it out for upto 6 years with it classed as you PPOR.

    If not allready you can change your loan to I/O, then claim it on your tax. Tell the bank what your doing and they will be more than helpfull.

    here is an article from the age, it is ment to help families but you are in the same position

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/property/home-in-on-tax-lurk/2008/07/28/1217097144054.html

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    I feel there is some biased in your comments duckster, you still buy to hold with less deposits it just takes longer for the IP to get to a neutral state.

    The differance in costs of a 20% vs a 10% 5% or 3% LVR is not huge generaly speaking. as long as the invester can afford it.

    Risky yes, but the long term gains are what young investors should be looking for

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    more houses, smaller deposits. The more of other peoples money you can get the better! Aslong as you can afford them if interest rates go up and you have vacancys.

    why not spread it arround? try both whatever works for you go with.

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    Given the info you listed

    House value: $300,000
    6% capital growth on the property

    Assuming info (for negative gearing)

    10% deposit on Interest only loan
    9% interest charged
    4% rental return: $12,600

    ___________________________

    On your deposit on $30,000

    you loan $270,000 to purchase the house (not accounting for stamp duty, or other fees)

    for pay 9% of that in I/O payment per annum. ($24,300)
    __________________________

    After 1 year

    Est. Property Value: $318,000 (6% growth)
    Loan amount: $270,000 (I/O payments, no change)
    Interest payments: $24,300
    Projected rental income: $9,600 (80% of $12,000)

    Interest payments – rental income = tax deduction (not taking into account Depreciation, rates, and any other deductions)
    $24,300 – $9,600 = $14,700

    Tax deduction @ 40c in the dollar
    $14,700 x .4 = $5,880

    Costs – Tax benefit = Real lose
    $14,700 – $5,880 = $8,820

    Property value – Loan = Your share
    $318,000 – $270,000 = $48,000

    Your share – Initial deposit – costs = “Profit”
    $48,000 – $30,000 – $8,820 = $9,180

    On your $30,000 deposit you made $9,180 (30.6% profit)

    Please be advised that I am not a financial planner, the information listed above are only stats and figures. Please do you own homework to find true costs.

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