Hey ZIZ,
The main reason some are not for buy and hold even though the yield is high is because I want to generate cashflow. Of the five I have (six as of tomorrow) I want to keep three definitely as they are in good positions and growing (Capital Growth) nicely and are yielding 9% or more (gross). The others are good yields but I only want to keep a core stock of what I consider the best properties and use the others to generate cash to pay off the core stock. I hope to end up with 25 properties in 15 years returning $200K and debt free. To do this I will use some less desirable stock to get there. I am only in my formative stage of planning but that is where I am headed. The difference to me between just renting the property (return ~ $1200-$1500) wrapping (return ~ $3000-$3500) is considerable enough to make the process worthwhile. I may miss out on capital growth but I am happy to use the cash to pay down my “core” stock.
I hope this makes sense.
I am keen to get to the seminar in November so I can clarify some of my exit strategies. I have learnt over the last 6-8 months that (as steve says) before you buy work out your exit strategy. I am trying to be creative with the last two purchases as one is renovating (which could yield up to 50% Property value increase and the other is a subdivision and/or renovation as well. I enjoy the variety that my expanding exit strategies give me. Any more questions ZIZ fire away….I am only an infant but writing gives me further clarity.
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Hey Nick,
I am in Brisbane and always open for a chat. Looking to do my first wrap real soon (top level procrastinator). Always open for a chat.
Jason,
Met you at the Vendor Finance meeting glad to hear you are powering along look forward to our next meeting.
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Question for Fergus…. which part of the world are you wrapping in. What price range are you wrapping ? Always interested to find out what others are doing ??
Thanks
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You have to rememebr that people we are wrapping to are those who cannot get standard finance for various reasons. One of those may well be bankruptcy, etc. Now I don’t know about you but I’m sure Mr Bond still had the cash to buy a place even after being bankrupt. There are a few of these sort of people out there and they would probably love the oppportunity to buy a house.
What a deal that would be…..
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Hey CY,
I’m no Eddie the expert but I just did this with my accountant.
Please check with your Accountant as they will know best !!
I think setting up a company, etc depends on how far you want to go. Doing one or two outside a company won’t kill you but if you get serious then there are (depending on circumstances) great options in setting up a structure. I got a solicitor to set up my company and trust and I think any acct or Sol. can do so. Ended up costing me $1270 plus about $110 for the Acct. to do a few bits. (Having friends helps).
I am the sole director as my wife owns out family home solely….nicely separate.
As I have already bought two properties prior to this company I will have to pay Stamps again to move them into the trust…..such is life.
We need the Accts here Steve or Dave !!
Hope this Helps
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Matt,
I’m no expert on commercial stuff but a few thoughts came to mind.
1. What are the conditions of the current lease (Get hold of it and take it to a solicitor).
2. Request a financial statement of the businesses activity over the last two/three years. (Maybe see an acountant).
3. Check with local council/Main Roads as to any changes modifications around the area that may lead to a reduction in customers. (or that have recently happened – the business may not show the losses yet ?)
Small businesses can be highly profitable but also a potential headache. Hope the investigation brings you a great cash cow.
Maybe he has been reading “How to Lose Friends and Infuriate People” by Jonar Nader
Hey there Canadian Dave,
Would you mind explaining how you use vendor financing in the way you talked about here. It would be great to here how you people over there are doing things ?
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1. The first and foremost is the asset protection of the investments. I have heard you and others all recommend looking at this process as a means to protecting your assets into the future. This would (as I see it) require a company to be set up and then trusts established as needs arise (per properties). I want to make sure I have an accountant who understands the type of transactions I am enterring into and will therefore recognise the most appropriate structure.
2. The reason I specifically ask for someone who has Wrap familiarity is so they are an individual who is on my team of advisors and who is able to give me advice that is helpful and appropriate in regards to the legalities of structuring a wrap. You recommend having the best of advisors on your side. Thought that with all the very active wrappers on this site someone may have had a particularly good Accountant.
3. Someone to advise me on the best possible way to account for my wraps so they can complete my acounts quickly/easily and the paper work will suffice for any audit attention.
These would be my major reasons for the request but I am all ears as to your advice because I am just a newbie.
When you talk of systems and software is this what you/Dave covered in your CD’s in regards to the home loan program,etc. I would love to now more about your system of managing the wraps through your basic systems. I know it’s a big one but I think you’re used to that by now Steve.
Evening all,
I was talking to an accountant the other day and he was saying that the first trust needs to be purchased but after that he would show me how to establish further trusts myself. Does this sound right ?
Appreciate comment/thoughts.
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Terry,
I bought the Wrap Secrets Revealed kit and have learnt much from both the PSR and WSR. I haven’t done a wrap but I will. As far as the PSR it gave many tips and tools that are very useful. I have found the kit money well spent. As for after sales support, Steve always answers Emails within a few days and provides helpful advice. Hope this helps.
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Mark ,
I went to the Brisbane Event but there is a one day event in June where Dymphna goes through a lot of stuff. If you contact Break Free Events they could possibly help you. They are at http://www.breakfreeevents.com.au
The seminar I went to was aimed mainly at Asset protection but she also espouses her approach to wealth creation which is more of a Dolf deRoos style. If you want any further info Email me if you would like on [email protected] and we can talk.
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Thanks Tara,
We are going to keep the place (I think my wife would kill me if we sold !!) I have been learning heaps lately about how to structure the finance to maximise the property purchases available. This forum has opened up to me a whole new world of options by way of no docs loans….Thanks once again for the forum Steve and thanks for the advice Tara.
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