Another one to add to the list is ” The One
Minute Millionaire” , It may sound tacky but it is a very good read. Full of good ideas to help shape your paradigm…… I really enjoyed it and have given a few away to friends for encouragement.
Worth a look in conjunction with Big Bad Bruce’s recommendation…..[}]
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Hey Leigh,
I’ve heard of people doing this and I thought about it myself. What I decided though was that my Solicitor is a very valuable part of my team. While it may cost around $350 for him to establish a trust it is up to date (not that there are to many changes) and it gives me the chance to make sure I am using the right vehicle. I also see it as ongoing work that keeps him paid and provides me with a good solicitor relationship. I guess I just find it easier to leave it to the experts and happily pay them for their skills. The other up side is if something is wrong it is his mistake. Therefore he must fix it up.
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With you all the way there Mr Hedge. It is nice to think about scoring properties undervalue but I also really enjoy solving peoples problems not ripping them off. It is a fine line and I know many will say that if people get themselves into trouble then they deserve what they get. Can’t say that sits well with me as I never wish ill on people as I would hope they wish no ill to me.
I have seen many people on different forums get all excited after reading Kiyosaki or Burley or De roos or a host of other authors and ask about deals as they are done in the USA. I have said it before and will say it again. I am glad that we do things differently here. Even if mortgagee auctions don’t always get top dollar at least they get what the market is willing to pay. The dog eat dog American system may seem full of opportunity but it is also very ruthless.
I like to invest in something that helps other. IF I can make a buck…even better. It is for this reason that I invest in houses and people and for this reason also I gave away share trading. As Stuatr O’Neill says…
p.s.
tenants don’t rent houses people do!
pp.s
if you do not like dealing with people…buy shares! Property is a peoples game.
I like that thinking.
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Hey Mongrel,
(not sure if I should write that !!)
The advice my solicitor gave me is that the practice is not illegal just outside the bounds of the act and if something went wrong….who would the court support.
For me it was easier not to go there.
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Hey Tails,
It’s cool to have an opinion but sledging helps no one. People come here of their own free will and read. It’s up to them (and you) whether they act or not. Tell us all who is Steve’s mysterious ID ? Accusations or fact ??
Sounds like you are in deisagreeance with the philosophy so don’t follow it. That is good for you.
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Hey Pynecone,
why don’t you throw some of the options up here on the site so we could all look at what you suggest. Have you got any real deals that you have done that could encourage us all ?
Look forward to your reply …
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Hey Wellyboot,
Welcome to the forum …or as Bruce says….PI.com []
Just a thought as to what you guys shoulg set up… It really depends on the situation and the money split. You should speak to a solicitor to consider the four main approaches.
1. Form a company.
2. Set up a Unit Trust.
3. Do a Joint Venture.
4. Form a partnership.
All of these have pro’s and con’s and the best person to see would be the solicitor and or accoutant. It may seem like a lot of money but it will be more expensive if things go wrong.
As to LOC or not to LOC…….
It certainly brings the costs down if you uses your own money but it also means a lot fewer deals. I use the LOC for deposits through a broker. Another clever way people use LOC is to buy the place “cash” and then be able to negotiate a lot tougher. After purchase they then refinance the house and pull their money out.
Hope this all helps.
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This is a tricky one because it could be different for everyone in their situation. It really is worth checking with a professional so you get the best and most suitable set up for you.
I personally use a Family trust with a corporate trustee (company) and have myself and family as beneficiaries. I am the sole director of the company (my wife owns our house) and this gives me some level of protection fromlosing our house.
As to cashflow this year I will probably have to think about setting up another company as beneficiary so I only have to pay 30% tax (not marginal rates (higher). Realise though that this suits me at the moment. It may not suit your needs.
Please see a professional to get real and appropriate advice.
Hope this helps.
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Hey 6×1,
I am both of those and I purchase through a structure to minimise the tax and maximise the protection. Even if I had to pay max tax…..I’m still making money.
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Check itout with an Accountant but as I understand it…..Dates run from contract date (signing) to settlment therefore you would have a areduced tax bill….well done …hopefully. Realise though I am not an accountant. Steve ??
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Well this topic seems to have stirred the pot. I may be one of those naive people you care to talk of Ireland but I am happy. Like Mike I haven’t seen any of those people you are talking about but hey maybe they are all waiting to evolve.
I guess what disturbs me most is that you wish to criticise but in a negative manner. You have your opinion and I have mine. Good. I will not shove it down your throat and vice versa. From what I understand of this site it is about sharing information to try and educate each other. I guess your point is loud and clear and it has given us something to think about. Each of us is responsible for our own paths we tread and must plan for eventualities. You have given us something to think on. [?]
I have a good friend who has been investing in property for 20 years and he started in “cheap” properties and he still has them all. 53 properties later he still loves his cheapies that are worth far more now than ever before.
I guess I will happily follow such a path and see where it takes me. If you choose to follow another path…..great go for it and I hope it does you well. You sound very savvy with the market and I am sure you will do well so best of luck.I may also reach a point where I feel it is no longer worth the effort and sell out but if I do I will do so for myself and allow others to make their own decisions which will be right for them.
And Tails you first said that you have found nothing on this site that makes you want to go out and do deals. Great. That is called an outcome and if it works for you ….excellent.
I hope both of you do well and enjoy what you do. Wishing you abundance. []
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No problemo YG. Always glad to help. I know exactly what you mean by worrying about posting. I felt the same way and still do feel the same way on many occasions.
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Guess it depends on what you want to achieve 6×1.
If you want to retire sooner will the -ve geared help or hinder. You may want to only go for positive geared to replace income or use -ve geared as a growth strategy to pay down debt later.
Answer is it depends on what you set out to achieve. The joy of this game is there are no rules except to enjoy what you do.
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Hey Gun.[]
To me yield is the amount of return that you recieve for your investment. I always think of it in Farmers terms. If the farmer plants a crop he either has a high or low yield when it comes to harvesting time. this yield is merely how much the farmer gets back for his initial ivestment of time and seeds.
For us yield is how much we get back for our investment.
eg.
Therefore my gross yield is 7280/54000 * 100
= (APPROX) 13.5%
Now this is a gross yield.
To calculate my nett yeild I would factor in rates, mgt costs, insurance, repairs.
For example,
Rates : $1600
Insur : $ 450
Repairs : $ 300
Mgt Costs : $ 560 (incl GST)
Total : $ 2910
therefore my nett yield after expenses is
7280 – 2910 = 4370 / 54000 * 100 = 8.1%
Then after interest of approx 6.1% I am looking at cashflow positive about 2%. Nothing to shake the earth but it doesn’t cost me to do it. And excepting unforeseen hiccups it is a no brainer investment for me. So I may only walk with $1000 per year but it is one thousand I didn’t have last year and the property has gone up since purchase around $20000 ( I settled 1 month ago and painted an polished the property myself – with a little help from a friend).
Hope this helps YG.
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