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    Bacchus Marsh isn't a suburb of Melbourne. It's a town and part of the Moorabool shire. As far as industry goes there's not much there. There's orchards, a small quarry and that's about it. There's one tiny shopping centre to service the town and not much of a main st. The basic things are there if you need them though. One of the big things for bacchus marsh is The avenue of Honour but the government are cutting down all the trees to make room for the new bypass.

    The town is serviced by a v/line train that goes through very regulary and the train ride into melb CBD is about 45 mins.

    There are a lot of new estates going in around the maddingly and darley areas and the land size isn't too bad either. Only thing I would be concerned about it that there's too many houses being built. If you're thinking about buying and holding it might be ok but if you're looking at building and selling soon after look at it in the eyes of the buyer – would pay extra for a house that's not brand new, or build one of your own?

    But in terms of paying 200k for a house and land, the phrase "you get what you pay for" comes to mind. If you're talking about the people I think you are I wouldn't build with them to save my life. The money you save by building cheap you have to spend on the house in the near future when things start to fall apart.

    If I were to invest in bacchus marsh I would buy one of the older houses closer to town (possibly as a rejuvination project) as down the track land close to town will always be in limited supply, but in the outer areas there's lots of room to expand.

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    Hi Scotty, just curious as to where you're thinking about purchasing if you are going to buy something in melbourne? If you look hard enough (and depending on where you want to live) there are still places under $300,000.

    18 months ago I built a 3 bed house for $151,000 and land was $101,000 so total package was $252,000. The current growth rate for the area I live in is around the 14% mark and I could realistically rent my house out for $350p/w at the moment. It is in the outer western suburbs but it's only a 35 min train ride into the CBD or a 45 min (non peak hr) drive.

    Alternatively, if you want something in the CBD I was looking at a 2 bed unit in the city (swantston st) that isn't purely uni accom that was selling aroung the $230,000 mark. That unit in particular is currently tenanted for $450p/w with reasonable yearly body corp fees. Not sure what the growth would be on a place like that though but (for my situation at the moment) it would have been a good CF+ place.

    I hope this helps you somewhat.

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    Thanks for the reply! This past fortnight I've been reading pretty much every post in this forum back to 2006 but for some reason I don't remember reading anything about this topic. Aaanyway, have now used the good ol' search function.

    The saying "If something is too good to be true, it usually is" springs to mind for some reason….. :)

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    Thanks for the reply dust2dust. I thought the bank valuer visits the residence and makes a value from that. Should have known that they’d just be punching some figures into a computer! I may well be making a few
    phone calls on Monday then…

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    It’s all starting to make a bit more sense now :)

    Going with what Sandra said how you can make extra principal payments in an IO loan, if I were to do that can the extra payments be redrawn upon? So putting in extra payments when possible to reduce the interest being paid then when funds are needed redraw on the loan or would an offset account be better for this train of thought?

    What I’m still iffy about is that say we’re in a perfect world and interest will ways be at 8% (for arguments sake) so with a P&I the interest being calculated will reduce as the principle reduces. With an IO loan the interest beig calculated always stay the same becAuse the principle never changes so even though you may be saving money in the short term won’t it cancel itself out in the long term because the principle isn’t being reduced and interest being calculated will always be on the original amount?

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    OP, I'm glad you've asked this, I was going to ask the same thing as I'm confused on the benefits of a interest only loan.

    Number 8, in regards to point 5 in your post you say "Your money made in property is not from what you pay down but how the asset grows in value, the more assets you own the wealthier you will become, this is based on past performance." Which makes sense to me but my train of thought is if you put just that little bit extra a week into your mortgage in a P&I loan and get the pricipal down then when/if you sell instead of having to take say $200,000 out of the sale to pay back the original principal you don't have to as you've paid it down/off?

    Also, what about the fact that the property is never yours? So say at the end of the loan term you've paid off the interest, you either have to sell to pay off the original principal amount or find a spare $200,000 laying around to pay it off. Please correct me if I'm wrong with my thinking here.

    I hope this makes sense? I'm fairly new to property investing and still trying to get my head around it!

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