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Hi all,
I’ve got a weird question and I’m guessing the answer but wondering if anyone had come across it.
I’ve got some family members, who due to age, are in the situation where they cannot service anything more according to the banks but don’t want to lose access to funds because obviously they will never get it again.They have a couple of properties with the same lender but they are stand alone loans.
If they sell one, and there is equity in the other, is there a way to transfer any of the debt over to the other property so technically they are not increasing their debt with the bank (actually decreasing) and don’t need to reapply?TIA
RMAA
Email MeYes.
They can keep the loan open under different security. This could be a term deposit temporarily under a new property is found and then mortgaging the property at settlement.
Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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Thanks Terry, but could they substitute the security the bank already holds if they don’t want to purchase again to leave access to the funds for contingency?
RMAA
Email MeWill depend on the lender and what their policy is.
Given their age they may still ask for evidence of income in order to show they can support the ongoing loan.
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Yes but the loan will always need security to be kept open. This could be with cash.
Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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If they sell one, and there is equity in the other, is there a way to transfer any of the debt over to the other property so technically they are not increasing their debt with the bank (actually decreasing) and don’t need to reapply?
I may be missing something here but if they’re selling one property, why not place the funds in an offset or redraw of another property? This way they reduce the interest payments and still have access to the funds 👍😎
Ethan Timor | Aligned Finance Pty Ltd
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Thanks Ethan. I know it’s a weird one.
I’ve seen it before when they were crossed so they only needed to reduce enough to keep the LVR under 80%.
But I was just asked the question and I hadn’t come across anything like it before when the properties weren’t crossed. So a bit like substituting security as Terry said but using another property that the bank already has mortgaged, not cash.If it helps it make more sense i’ve created some hypothetical numbers..?
Property A worth $400,000 debt of $50k
Property B worth $250,000 debt $220k
If they sell and discharge they have $30k in the bank.
If they could transfer the $220k over to the other property, with it 100% offset until such time they want to draw upon it rather then reapply for equity release down the track.I guess its just in this new environment where a lot of people don’t qualify for what they already have pre APRA, you don’t want to fully discharge debt as you may never get it again!
RMAA
Email MeOh! Now I understand what you’re after 😊
Different lenders have different policies. Would you mind sharing with us who’s the lender? Do they have a broker or are they dealing directly with the lender?
Ethan Timor | Aligned Finance Pty Ltd
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Lending with STG other with ANZ.
Spoken to multiple brokers, finance strategists if you want to call them that, some even with the luxury of no response once details have been given.
looking at speaking to them directly again, as last time was 12 months ago, just to see if anything has changed.RMAA
Email MeANZ are good with substitution of security and St G should be too..
Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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shouldn’t be too much of a problem- just a normal substitution of security. Security substitutions work a treat as long as:
*the owner of each property is the same
*the borrowers do not change
*there is sufficient equity in the end property to keep the total debts <80% LVRCorey Batt | Precision Funding
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