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  • Profile photo of newbie2zoningnewbie2zoning
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    Hi all,

    I am looking at buying a 800sqm corner block (so 2 street frontages) with a house at the front. It is in residential zone 3 (soon to be neighborhood res zone), but close to beach, (less than 1km) and train station (1km).

    My question is whether I can build 2 or 3 dwellings on it.

    The zoning is clear that I can build 2 (stca) dwellings on a block, and/or subdivide it into 2 blocks. 

    What is not clear is whether I can subdivide it into 2 blocks, one 500 and one 300, and build 2 townhouses on the 500m block and one unit on the 300m block.

    I do know that 300m blocks are permitted. This plan would appear to not break the rules – but I'm sure it does somehow??

    I do understand that there's about a million and a half details that could make or break this plan, but ignoring sewage and sun angles, etc, is this theoretically possible? Or maybe not because of the permit order and process?

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    also, thanks for any advice or info you can give. :)

    zem100
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    HI there, I am no expert but wanted to share an experience where I got caught out by not doing all of the due diligence.

    Long story short I was told by a number of sources that a property that I purchased (900sqm) that it cocould fit in a unit at the rear. All made sense and I purchased the place. To my disappointment (i.e. stupidity) I only learnt that the driveway for the new dwelling would require the car to turn around (not allowed to drive in and reverse out). Obvious now, yes. Rookie mistake, yes.

    I'd suggest calling a local planner in the area for a chat before buying. Good luck.

    I'd be interested to hear how a buyer can cover all due diligence in such a pre-purchase analysis without actually having plans drawn up etc.

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    In QLD would depend on the council area you are in.

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    Hi Newbie, will not comment without knowing the state (We have done a number of development in Melbourne). However, diligence is imperative, try meeting with a planner from the council or an independent planner which won't cost much but will definately be worth it depending on your travel plans

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    Thanks Redwood and zem100, talking to a planner sounds like the right way to go. 

    Redwood : This block is in Melbourne, under the Kingston council. Care to comment further? :)

    I was really curious about the big gray area in the zoning clauses, etc online – there's coverage of subdivision, and coverage of 2 dwellings on a block, but no talk of minimum block size, etc. So – theoretically – on an 800sqm block, I could subdivide then build 2 units on each. Pretty sure that's not what the council has in mind but it looks perfectly plausible just going by the zoning schedules… I think due to bringing in the new zones in July 2014, this council just hasn't decided on a minimum block size yet? Hard for those of us without connections to the planners. But I will call and inquire.

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