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  • Profile photo of SayanSayan
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    Hi,

    I understand that some of the borrowing expenses such as Lender's legal fees,  mortgage registration fees and loan application fee are deductible over the number of years. Most of the info I found says five years. 

    I am planning to rent this IP out for two years before turning it into my PPOR. 

    Can I claim these borrowing expenses over two years instead of five in this case? 

    Also, is rate lock fee considered as 'loan application fee' and hence can be claimed over number of years, or can the total amount be claimed in the first year? 

    Thank you,

    Sayan. 

    Profile photo of Jamie MooreJamie Moore
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    I'm not an accountant but I'd assume they'd be claimable expenses during the period the property is an IP.

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    Thanks, Jamie. That was quick! :-)

    It does make sense to use the number of years the property is rented out. Also, found this:

    Borrowing Expenses – deductible over the period of the loan where the loan is less than five years. Otherwise deductible over five years.

    Cheers,

    Sayan

    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Costs associated with borrowing the money required to purchase the property are not deductible upfront, they are deductible over the shorter of either the period of the loan or five years.

    Borrowing expenses include mortgage insurance, title search fees, registration of mortgage, stamp duty on mortgage and loan establishment fees to name a few.

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    Hi Sayan,

    I think in that case you can only claim 20% of the deduction over each of the first two years, and then it is no longer deductible. Like Jamie, not an accountant so you would need to get this clarified.

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    Tom

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    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Bang on Tom would be proportionally deductible.

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    Thanks, Tom.

    According to below, would it meant that if I happened to turn the IP into PPOR after the second year, then a deduction of the balance of the borrowing expenses (over $100) can be claimed in that year?

    " If your total borrowing expenses are more than $100, the deduction is spread over five years or the term of the loan, whichever is less. If the total deductible borrowing expenses are $100 or less, they are fully deductible in the income year they are incurred.

    If you repay the loan early and in less than five years, you can claim a deduction for the balance of the borrowing expenses in the year of repayment."

    Cheers,

    Sayan.

    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    That's right Sayan you have it in one.

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    Only if as shown bolded you repay the loan early, i.e. refinance it.

    Just because it is turned into a PPOR doesn't give you the right to claim the remaining expenses.

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    Thanks very much, guys!

    Sayan

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