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  • Profile photo of Stephen RogersStephen Rogers
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    I know that this questions has been answered many times but 1 point that seems to be missed is the savings history.

    Previous blogs have recommended that it’s better to pay down a debt (at 14%) rather then gain interest (at 6.5%) which I agree with. The problem arises when the bank needs to see savings over a period of time. The sooner I can get to the 10% mark the sooner I can buy a property. 

    My questions are
    1.       Will the bank view paying debt faster as evidence of savings?
    2.     If I have a 10% deposit will the bank then deduct what ever amount I have in debt against that (ie savings of 70k less 15k debt = bank views this as 55k deposit)

    Hope this question makes sense

    Profile photo of ducksterduckster
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    1. Paying off debt faster will reduce your LVR loan to value ratio which means you can either borrow against equity you have built up or cross secure two properties together for one big loan and get a lower LVR across the two properties (not recommended to cross secure as if you sell one property you have security problems with the lender and you could lose both houses)
    If you get the LVR < 80% you can take an equity loan against the property up to 80% and use the borrowed money as a deposit for the next property.
    You could argue that the extra payments are a savings scheme and is evidence of savings as long as you agree to lower the repayments to allow for the next loan. The bank is interested in if you can afford the extra repayments for the next loan.

    2. Your question is not really asked properly. So I am going to state the problem.
    The 70k Savings is about your Financial Position
    where as the 15k Debt is about cash flow.
    If you owe 15k the bank looks at the repayment commitment on the 15k debt.
    This is known by another name being Serviceability of the borrower.
    Where as the 70k is the deposit however the banks lending program looks at the 15k debt at what ever interest rate and term and it calculates and reduces how much you can borrow not due to deposit LVR factor but more for a serviceability factor.
    Another trap is if you have a credit limit on a credit card this will reduce the lending amount based on if the full debt was borrowed even if you owed only $1 on the credit card.

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    Banks will want to see 2 things
    1. the deposit, whether 5% or 10%. You will need to physically be able to pay this

    2. The genuine savings. Many lenders want to see you save up 3 or 5% of the purchase price over a number of months. Some lenders will treat rent paid as counting towards savings. Some may count other debt paid too – but i am not too sure about that.

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