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  • Profile photo of t_bakert_baker
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    @t_baker
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    Hi Everyone,

    I am new to this – so if i sound deranged or something I apologise.

    Anyway I have been interested in property investment for a long time and have only just started to think about it more seriously.

    I own my own house – or rather the bank allows me to pay for it … – is it possible to refinance and use the improved value for a deposit on an IP? Is this a bad idea?

    If it is possible how does it work?

    All advice is welcome!

    Thanks,
    Todd

    Profile photo of blakebuchananblakebuchanan
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    Hey mate,

    yes it is very possible as well as common. You can increase your existing loan or cross-collateralise which means you don't have to increase your existing loan and simply borrow more against the investment. Sometimes it is a good opportunity to look around for a better deal or just see what is available in the market.

    Depending on what the current value of your house is verses the loan amount owing will determine how much extra you can borrow. All funders refinance to different LVR's. 

    Let me know if you need any more information

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    LVR?

    I am not exactly down with the lingo ;-)

    Would you keep the finance of the IP with the same mob that do your own house? Or just look for the best deal?

    How do you find out how much you can borrow? Or is the only way to approach a lender and find out?

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    Hey Todd. I'll post more details when I am not in the process of 'winding down' via a nice cab sav and a couple of Hahns…….but LVR means 'loan to valuation ratio ' – or in other words if you are buying a $100,000 property, and borrowing $80,000 (ie you have a 20% deposit) then that would be an 80% LVR. Get the idea?  As far as using your own home to get some equity to fund a property purchase, the ideal way this would work is as follows.

    OK….. your home was bought at a price of 300k. and you owe 200k as of now. You think, 'hey property values have gone up in my area, plus I've built a mighty fine shed and the missus has done a masterful job on the garden AND it is 2 years since I took the loan out. Now…you have 2 options – go to another lender and 'refinance ' at the current valuation of your home, or (may save you a bit of $$$) go to your current lender and see if you can get your property 'revalued' to access some equity. Lo and behold, they believe up until this point it is worth $300,000 full stop. Whoa – the valuation comes in at $380,000! COngrats! As long as you have enough income to 'service' the loan, you could with your current lender, now in theory apply to 'top up' your loan at the 80% LVR based on the new valuation of 380k. ie @80%LVR you could acces $304,000 , but you owe them only $200,000. So you have $104,000 (80% of valuation less what you currently owe the lender) to use as you see fit. Normally, you would 'split' your loan, and the$104,000 would be what you would use to fund deposits on some new investment property – which can be for a new seperate loan with your current lender, or with whoever you like….the world is your oyster! Of course, you will be paying interest on this money as will as your new loan – but as it was for investment  it is tax deductable – and spliting the loan like this makes it easy to keep track of for your accountant. Of course there are tweaks and variations but essentially this is how it works. Keep us posted. Cheers.  PS. This is not financial advice, just a damn great idea, and please excuse any spelling mistakes above and beyond the usual.

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    Hey Todd,

    It is good to keep your properties seperated out from each other & not have them cross-collatoralised (one securing the other property). If you default on one loan they have the option to sell both properties up. If you have 20% deposit plus fees then it is best to seperate the loans with different lenders.

    As long as you have the equity & the income you can shop your deal around verious lenders & there are some great 'deals' around these days.

    There can be an enormous difference between lenders & how much they are willing to lend you. Amounts can very by as much as a couple of hundred thousand dollars. It is best to get advice from a broker as the advice is free & you can benefit from their knowledge.

    Regards,

    Robert Relph
    Diversified Financial Solutions
    205/1 Princess Street
    Kew Vic 3101
    Ph: 1300 001 003
    Mobile: 0422 019 282

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    I must admit I am still a bit confused about LVR.

    Is refinancing even the right word if you want to (scenario B in the other guy's post) revalue your house?

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    Hi

    It may not be necessary to refinance. Just ask you existing lender for a new loan and then use this as deposit for the next one (or two).

    Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
    http://www.Structuring.com.au
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    Lawyer, Mortgage Broker and Tax Advisor (Sydney based but advising Aust wide) http://www.Structuring.com.au

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