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  • Profile photo of wayne10539wayne10539
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    Could of added this to the other thread, as the same people will probally be able to advise on both. This one is a little more complicated, or at least i think so.

    We recently won a home, and want to know if the building and chattels can be depreciated considering that they did not cost me anything?

    The other twist to this property was that we signed for posession in July, and rented the property out immediately, however we did not recieve the title until October.

    I imagine that i would have to declare the rental income prior to actually owning the property when the title was ready, but are we able to claim our expenses also prior to the release of the title?

    Good Luck

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    Wayne

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    Wow that is lucky.

    I think you can claim depreciation as it is based on the value, not what you paid for it.

    Were you receiving rental income before you owned it? If so, that is a bonus, but I don’t think you could claim things at this stage – it would be like you renting it and subletting it out. You would probably have to declare the rent.

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    Profile photo of wayne10539wayne10539
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    Very Lucky actually, as it was a direct debit from our credit card, we had paid out the credit card 3 months prior and asked for it to be cancelled.

    When we found out we won the home and recieved the credit card statement, the only trasaction was the purchase of the tickets, they allowed the direct debit to proceed.

    We did recieve about $5000 of rent before we even recieved the title. I thought i would have to claim the rent, i was hoping that i could offset with some expenses also.

    Obviously another one to run past the accountant.

    Thanks

    Wayne

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    Hi all

    I would suggest , you would declare / claim from the time you took possession.

    reason is, when you are buying a property the ATO deem that you have purchased from the date of an offer not settlement, doesn’t matter where the title is or who’s name it is in.

    Celeste

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    Celeste

    Thanks for the input. The other intersting thing that we found out later, was that the raffle organisers would only allow the title to be in the name that the ticket was bought in.

    We wanted to put it in the name of our family trust, but were unable. You dont expect to ever be in this type of situation, but we certaintly ensure that now when we buy tickets that they are in the names that would most benefit us tax wise in the long run.

    Some how i think i have used up my lucky break in life, and dont think lightning will strike twice. Keep buying tickets however!

    Wayne

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    Hi Wayne,

    Yep, you can claim depreciation. That luck just keeps coming…

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    Thanks Scott,

    I will be in contact.

    Wayne

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    Far out thats awesome Wayne!!
    Is it a brand new place?
    In a good area?
    Were you into investing before that?
    sounds like you had a trust going so youve been doing property deals prviously?
    not pryin ginto yr personal stuff just wondering if it really brought you closer to yr goals?maybe eraly retirement?

    all the best man
    luke

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    Thanks Luke

    Yes it is brand new, it is on the Gold Coast on the canals, 4 kms from Surfers Paradise with views over the city. It also came fully furnished, the family and i spent 4 weeks in it last August when we went over to take possession of the property.

    I have been investing in property over the last ten years, and done very well, to the point that both my wife and myself resigned from our mining jobs 18 months ago, and went for the sea change. Prior to winning the home, i was working 2 days a week, whilst my wife has decided not to work ever since we left the mines. Winnning the home has taken the pressure off, for my wife to work at all or for myself to increase my days.

    I have only recently discoverd the advantage of trusts in in the last 12 months, and kick my self that i had not found this site earlier. There is so much knowledge and help on this site, from people who are actually doing the things that they recommended.

    It has certaintly brought us closer to retiring frommy 2 day per week job, but have to ensure whatever i do, it is still flexible enough to allow us to keep building our portfolio and investment goals.

    Regards

    Wayne

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    Don’t forget you can claim depreciation on the furniture too – if using it for the investment.

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    Profile photo of Luke TaylorLuke Taylor
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    Far out that is awesome man! Huge!!
    You are at a place that many dream of !
    you can use the trust in future deals for sure just be careful not to get lazy in yr future deals .As sometimes when things come easy we can get a bit lazy in DD and make mistakes.

    Definately Very exciting stuff , all the best man!!

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