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  • Profile photo of Property PassionProperty Passion
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    When looking at a development site, how do you seasoned developers create a feasibility report ?

    what is the best way to go about it? what costs do i need to take into consideration? and what should i watch out for?

    Sort of hard to get it down on paper when there are so many unknowns when looking at a potential project

    thanks in advance

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    ok well this is how i do my workings.

    property 300k
    demolish cost 8k
    stamp duty 14k
    architect 15k
    construction cost 280k (2 units)
    selling cost 20k
    loan/solic. cost 1k
    intrest @ 7% 41k

    Total costs 679k

    the resale price would be 360k per unit (worst case)

    Ok developers this is how i work out my costs. Leaves me with 41k in pocket.

    still have to pay CGT and GST

    this deal seems pretty skinny to me. Remember this is a 12 month project)
    what do you guys think of it ? comments please

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    hi pp

    that does seem very skinny. I would be going for >20% returns on a construction. Do you use any feasibility software to work out your profits?

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    nope none at all.

    do you ?
    any that you could suggest ?

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    Why demolish, can you just dual occ.

    Monopoly, my favourite game

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    To ensure we don’t leave out any costs we use a program called feastudy http://www.devfeas.com.au.

    Of course it is only as good as the numbers you put into it. It tends to spit out an 18 page reports with lots of “what ifs”‘- a sensitivity analysis

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    Originally posted by Property Passion:

    When looking at a development site, how do you seasoned developers create a feasibility report ?

    what is the best way to go about it? what costs do i need to take into consideration? and what should i watch out for?

    Sort of hard to get it down on paper when there are so many unknowns when looking at a potential project

    thanks in advance

    Before we even do a feasibility we assess the site for its development potential.

    You will find a checklist you can download at http://www.metropoleprojects.com.au under investor’s learning centre

    Michael Yardney
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    that’s the one we use too pp

    It estimates a % profit at the end.

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    pp you need to calculate what your GST would be in reality, talk with your accountanat, it could potentially be more than your profits, leaving you with a loss.

    Personally, I would run not walk away from this deal!!!!! The margin is not only skinny, it may be backwards

    Sorry to be so synical

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    Rick the house im thinking of isnt too attractive, timber house built 1950’s, BUT of course might still be an option, id have to have a closer look at the house itself.

    Dr.X dont worry about giving me the truth if thats your opinion, thats what im here for, to listen to you all your opinions and make my own conclusion.

    Mike, going to check out those links when i get the chance.

    Thanks all

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    costs if i keep the existing house.
    property 300k
    reno (existing house) 20k
    stamp duty 14k
    architect 15k
    construction cost 140k
    selling cost 20k
    loan/solic. cost 1k
    intrest @ 7% 33k

    total cost 543k

    resale value is what im unsure about.
    existing renovated house 300k ?
    new unit 360k
    resale value 660k

    profit 117k

    does this look better?

    my only consern is the value of the existing home after the 20k reno.

    comments please dont be shy![biggrin]
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    The property was 300k house and land.
    After dual occing it, you have your unit to sell at $360k? and house at $300K?

    Sounds almost reasonable. I think a lot depends on how they look together, the house and unit. Are they Torvill and Dean together – or Sir Les Patterson and Maria Sharapova ???!

    I have found that often the value of a house and land is not compromised too much by taking some of the land away.

    Probably also depends on the surroundings too. Lots of new stuff, or mixture?
    Neighbours?
    A lot less unknowns with your second plan -making them “known unknowns” to a certain extent.

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    The property was 300k house and land.
    After dual occing it, you have your unit to sell at $360k? and house at $300K?

    Sounds almost reasonable. I think a lot depends on how they look together, the house and unit. Are they Torvill and Dean together – or Sir Les Patterson and Maria Sharapova ???!

    I have found that often the value of a house and land is not compromised too much by taking some of the land away.

    Probably also depends on the surroundings too. Lots of new stuff, or mixture?
    Neighbours?
    A lot less unknowns with your second plan -making them “known unknowns” to a certain extent.

    Giddo
    http://www.standrewsplace.com.au

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    Profile photo of Property PassionProperty Passion
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    the units would look quite nice once completed, planning on rendering the existing home to match up with the new one i will build

    the area has a mixture of new and older homes.

    Aspiring property developer

    Giulio Taranto

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