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  • Profile photo of jensshedjensshed
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    I am a sole parent and am just applying for a line of credit on my home equity – this should give me only about $70,000 max to play with.
    I read Steves book about the 11 second formula but can’t work out how to get the exact percentage.
    If I bought this property I have seen for $29000 and it is tenanted at $80pw wht would my +CF % be?

    Profile photo of DazzlingDazzling
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    Hi Jensshed,

    On first inspection it passes the 11 sec guide….80 p.w. —> 40K.

    I reckon your example would eventually look like this ;

    Capital

    PP = 29K
    SD = nothing I believe at this level ??
    All other costs to acquire ~ 1K

    Cashflow

    Loan of 30K
    Interest p.a. @ 7% = 2.1 K p.a.
    Ownership total outgoings ~ 1 K p.a.
    Total cost to hold = 3.1 K p.a.

    Rent = 4.1 K p.a.

    Positive cashflow = 1 K p.a….(look out for those faulty water heaters – they’ll eat that up in no time)

    Your gross rent = 14.34% (52*80 / 29000)
    Interest = 7%
    Outgoings = 3.44% (1/29)

    Therefore your +CF% would be {14.34 – 7 – 3.44} = 3.9%.

    Pretty good stuff. Good luck with your endeavours.

    Cheers,

    Dazzling

    “No point having a cake if you can’t eat it.”

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    ok jensshed

    this is how i’d work it out

    Income per year 48 weeks @ 80pw = $3840

    less
    interest (29,000 plus costs 2,000)
    7% =2,170
    Rates and water 800
    insurance 300
    Management 9% of rent 3,840 = 345
    Repairs 300
    TOTAL =3,915

    So its not really cash positive at all.

    This is a great example of how a 14% return may not even be cash positive

    hope this helps

    regards westan

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    Profile photo of DazzlingDazzling
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    Or it could be a little industrial shed where the carpenter has signed up on a secure 5×2 lease where he pays $ 80 p.w. nett plus GST plus all the outgoings on the shed…in which case it is wildly positive. Like 7% plus.

    Assumptions are a wonderful thing, but distort the figures dreadfully if slightly out, especially with an example such as Jensshed has suggested, where the gross numbers are so small.

    What are the other cashflow details Jensshed ??

    Cheers,

    Dazzling

    “No point having a cake if you can’t eat it.”

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