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  • Profile photo of lifeXlifeX
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    I am considering refinancing my portfolio to a high LVR, using Lenders Mortgage Insurance.

    Correct me if I am wrong. If I am charged 1.5% LMI to access an extra 10% (new LVRs of 90%) on my exisiting portfolio.

    Then for every 100 gorillas of property I own. I should unlock the deposit in the form of a LOC for another 8 & 1/2 gorillas and spend 1 & 1/2 gorillas (blood everywhere……eeeew) on LMI for more property to the value of 70 gorillas.

    I can increase my current total property portfolio at 80%LVR by 170% at a cost of 3% LMI + refinance costs.[devil]

    What are your thoughts on this?


    Live, Learn and Grow

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    makes sense… as long as you can SERVICE the loan/s… [cap]

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    You lost me on the first gorilla

    Byronent
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    maybe you need to repeat the scenario using ‘widgets’

    hehe [biggrin]

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    i would prefer in dollars.

    Byronent
    Adelaide SA

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    You get two Chimps for every Gorilla!

    So you’d actually pay 3 whole chimps and gain 17 chimps worth in IPs.

    Is ‘multiplication by division’?[grin]

    Cheers

    C@34

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    I think you’ve all had one to many bananas
    Dardi

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    Originally posted by lifeX:

    I can increase my current total property portfolio at 80%LVR by 170% at a cost of 3% LMI + refinance costs.[devil]
    What are your thoughts on this? Lifexperience

    Hi LifeX

    I’ve done very well over the past couple of years by increasing my LVR (otherwise known as “due diligence gambling” [biggrin]) so I could buy more property. I’m comfortable because:
    1. It’s a short term strategy
    2. I have a concrete plan in place
    … to quickly rebuild my equity back to more comfortable levels.

    It’s not that I’ve just benefitted from the recent boom. I did benefit, of course, but I’m still buying. As long as you feel confident you can “do things differently” (thanks Steve) by adding value with your knowledge / experience / local knowledge (and I know you can do this LifeX), then I say GO FOR IT.

    Cheers
    Greg

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    You might have lost me on your figures

    Property value $100k
    Current Loan 80k (80%)

    Use LMI to goto 90% gives you an extra $10k for a deposit.

    Cost of this is 1.5% or $1.5k leaving a net of $8.5k

    Deduct another $1.5k to goto 90% of new IP leaves net $7k. This means you can spend upto $70k.

    I think you’ve increased your portfloio by 70% and not 170% (ie Gross value rises from $100 to $170)

    As long as the new IP’s have good enough cash flows just sit back and let inflation take its course.

    Cheers
    Jeff

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