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  • Profile photo of boardyboardy
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    @boardy
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    Hi all

    currently am building a PPOR which will have a 210k mortgage when completed & value of 350K.
    Also have 1 IP with 140k value owing 115k (returning $155p/w.
    We recently when looking for our next property & found a 3×1 with $170p/w for 145k went to the bank only to be told we should wait until PPOR is built?
    Have 2 kids & a part time working wife have reasessed & worked out if anything would require a little or no input IP.
    The bank has got me thinking know & am not sure what to do.
    Are they correct in telling me that until a house is built on a block it cannot be used as security?
    What should I do – I know you don’t have crystal balls but any information would be greatly appreciated.

    Regards Boardy

    P.S. investing intentions are to build up enough capital to pay PPOR in full so it does not have to be used as security

    Profile photo of Mortgage HunterMortgage Hunter
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    Who did you speak to at your bank? I trust it was a loans officer who was quoting plicy and not just his well intentioned advice?

    Maybe you need to be looking at another lender – or at least have that lending officer believe you are!

    Cheers,

    Simon Macks
    Mortgage Broker
    http://www.mortgagehunter.com.au
    0425 228 985

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    Profile photo of boardyboardy
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    @boardy
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    Thanks mortgage hunter

    He was actually the bank manager!

    Profile photo of kpkp
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    @kp
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    Hmmmmm…time to change banks ??? or try going through a good mortgage broker.

    I used to think ( many years ago) that the bank manager was god and that it would be a good thing to build up a relationship with him.

    The branch went through 3 managers in the two years I was dealing with them…two got made redundant, the first one told me he was considering taking up a lawn mowing round ( buying himself a job )to try his hand at doing something different….!!
    I came to realise that they are very much human, and very much a slave to the bank…nothing more nothing less..

    BTW…we are currently under construction and the bank seems to be happy to use the valuation on completion ( due Nov) as their LVR and have not knocked back further borrowing in the meantime.
    In fact, they have also factored in future rental potential ( after completion of construction )to add to the income side for further borrowings..

    I reckon you need to ask around a bit more..

    KP

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    YOU SHOULD TRY EDENLEA MORTGAGES TRUST ME THEY ARENT ALLIED WITH STEVE MCKNIGHT FOR NOTHING
    GOOD LUCK SOLDIER

    Profile photo of Brisbane 04Brisbane 04
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    Hi Boardy,
    I have been looking at your figures and please correct me if I am wrong in any area.Figures based on 7%interest only over 25 yrs
    $115K loan return $155pw repay $167pw
    $210K loan PPOR repay $370pw P&I
    $145K loan return $170pw repay $211pw
    With the addition of your new investment property you will be up for $423 pw.Now if you have the properties managed for approx 7% it will cost you approx $23pw, rates I’m guessing for 2 properties $1600 per year approx $30pw, Insurance $400 approx $8 pw. One thing I havent included is repairs/maintenance or little upgrades to your properties. The amounts adding up to $423 pw for all your properties. Your investment properties will cost you approx $142pw not counting repairs.Now I guess you will get some taxation breaks but sorry I cant speculate as to how much you will get back.My wife recently went through all our properties with a fine tooth comb, and after taking out all the fees and expenses we certainly werent making as much on our properties as I thought and now I have some understanding why the bank is reluctant to loan us more money at present. Keep in mind when the bank calculates how much they can lend you they always allow for an increase in interest rates and a vacancy period. On the other hand our properties have had some great capital growth which for a number of them we have realized it has enabled us to pay our mortgage off and reduce some debt. Our original plan was to buy and hold but our plan has changed with the economic situation.

    Martin

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    Yes, it may be hard to use as security when it is not finished. It is also not worth what you quote at the moment as it is still being constructed, so maybe it would be better to wait.

    But, as Simon said, don’t beleive anything a bank manager says without verifying. When I started out, I went for a loan and was rejected because I was part time, so I just left it at that. But if I had asked around, I could have gotten a loan and could have purchased that property – which would have grown in value 4 x.

    Terryw
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    North Sydney
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