Hi, all. In the rented house a part of a ceiling had to be replaced. The old ceiling had a special kind of uneven surface ‘paint’: a few understanding people say it is FIBRO-CHARM. They say it is not manufactured any more. Where can I buy/find/borrow/accept as a present some quantity of “it” – to cover 1 sq. meter?
Hi Anna,
Know any painters? They sometimes have a ‘stash’ from completed jobs out the back somewhere.
Derek
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Anna,
Truly understand your problem…. I had the same exact problem with my IP!
I believe the paint you’re referring to is “textured paint” which needs to be applied by a special roller. I have seen these sold in Bunnings.FYI – I didn’t actually bother painting my ceiling to match – it adds to the “fibro charm”.[oneeyed]
Just a question…
Is the surface really fough and crumbly??? i will be attending to a unit soon that has a finish on the ceiling that looks like sprayed on cement… rough to the touch, and easily crumbles and falls to the floor, or in your eyes when anything rubs against it. I have been told that this product may have asbestos (ie Fibro?) so perhaps we have the same stuff…??
It looks to be about 10-12 mm deep, grey in colour and perhaps serves as a type of insulation or sound barrier as well, i have seen it in many older schools. im certain it hasnt been painted on either
So… my question is:
Does anybody know what the stuff is???
Does it have asbestos???
Can i brush it down to remove any loose particles while replacing my floor coverings and use some sort of sealant or clear coat paint / other bonding material to lock it all together and trap any nasties should they exist???
Thanx for any info
Jason
hi there TEACHERK6,
i know the coating u are talking about, i believe it to be sprayed on with a “chopper” gun, don’t know if it would contain asbestos or similar though, however in regards to sealing and leaving it, i have painted a few very old crumbly houses in Quorn in country SA and we used a product called surface binder to ‘glue’ the surface and hold it from crumbling then just painted over it (after removing the really loose bits). can’t remember if it was solver or dulux brand, but they would both have a similar product. hope this helps.
cheers,
rusty[biggrin]We have a motel and the roof sounds exactly the same. As we have been renovating rooms we were getting them spray painted (Often twice as it is very easy to see when the paint work is uneven). We also found that this surface held onto smoke etc, in the end we spray bleached the whole ceiling rather than painting. Although a messy and smelly job they came up perfect.
Pinotcat
Hi AnnaShu,
from your description, it sounds very much like a readily available “textured” paint finish.”Fibro-Charm” sounds like a brand name. If you are able to remove a small piece from the existing ceiling, (about 50mm square) a good paint specialist should be able to match the type and colour for you.TeacherK6 – The coating you are describing sounds like a “spray on’ coating which is also used in many commercial buildings as a fire retardant. It is usually sprayed on to structural beams and ceilings as protection. Some types do contain asbestos, depending on the age of the application. Asbestos was banned in the late 70’s; so if the building is of a younger vintage, you may be ok. However, if the building is older than that, then the coating may (only may)contain asbestos. Quite possibly it will only be vermiculite, which is not considered a health risk.
I suggest you have a sample of the material – including the top layer AND the fibres, analysed at a licensed testing laboratory. Their technicians should take the sample as they will have all the appropriate protective clothing. They will also provide a written report on their findings and any relevant measures which need to be taken.
If asbestos is present, you are obliged under OH&S regulations to inform any contractors or persons using the premises of its location so that they do not inadvertantly disturb the asbestos, and present a risk to their health.
If the material is asbestos and it is currently friable ie crumbling and flaking, then it will need to be either totally encapsulated, or removed by a licensed removalist. This will depend on the state of the material.
Either way, the possibility of asbestos opens a large can of worms.
If the material is not asbestos, then you are free to patch / repair / paint at your leisure.
Just another item to add to the list of things to check when purchasing some types of property.
hope this all helps and good luck
best regards
Ron.Hiya,
Hmmm… any other houses in the area recently been sold, redeveloped, renovated? Sometimes you can find what you are looking for at places where they buy house remnants i.e. doors, windows, sinks etc (They are like house Recyclers, but I can’t remember their names at present. I had a link to some in Melbourne and Sydney, in the ‘useful links’ post which is archived now).
Our back room has a ceiling similar to this ‘stipple’ or textured effect. Perhaps you could art deco the repair job/replacement with a ceiling rose?
Another past-time in school was to scrunch up cheap toilet paper into little balls, wet them and put them in the top of a pen (once you’d taken out the nib and ink part) and then we’d stand on the toilet seat and shoot the ceiling with these wet paper balls. The next day they were dry. Anyway, to cut a long story short, the toilet ceiling, having been decorated by many a bored student, was covered in little spit balls and the painter hired to repaint the toilet, painted right over the top of them in high-gloss-enamel. Ah, those were the days! Gotta love the 80’s! []Hope you find what you are looking for
Sooshie []When a problem is created the solution is created simultaneously
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