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    ANY INFO ON GOOD AREAS TO BUY AND PLACES TO STAY CLEAR OF.FOUND SOME GOOD BUYS IN AND AROUND BROWNS PLAINS ,CREASTMEAD,25 KM FROM CITY.I AM FIRST HOME BUYER,CHEERS.<220 000K

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    Areas of crestmead are not favoured.
    It is a suburb that I would stay clear of, browns plains is a better option, but just my personal opinion.

    Marsden isnt all that bad, but for insurance purposes 4114 costs you more.

    Try daisy hill way or hyperdome suburbs

    ” a blind man may see what a sighted man may not”

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    Isn’t it funny how we all have opinions, as a resident of Logan for many years, and a community worker there, I would have said that crestmead was a better area than Marsden, opinions from us forumites are great, but don’t forget to do your own research SMARTMONEY

    Browns plains, boronia heights, crestmead, hillcrest ( I have had property in these areas, lived in these areas, and been quite happy – parents live in boronia heights)

    I live in Brisbane now, so am not specifically on the ground, but I do know that there are other forumites who live in this area – are you guys out there to give SMARTMONEY an opinion?

    Have you thought about Ipswich, rail line direct to brisvegas. Springfield, new city being built? Interested in North of Brisbane – D Bay for example?

    What about Inala – yeah I know it gets slagged, but it about the only place you can get a tidy home under 220 within 15ks of the CBD.

    Food for thought, good luck on home hunting SMARTMONEY.

    Cheers
    CD[rolleyesanim]

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    CD, many of those areas deserved their raps.

    Inala is hardly improving though in the very long term the prices can only go up. Currrently living a stone’s throw away from Inala has shown me it has a long way to go before the completely feral element even starts to leave unfortunately. I do believe it will increase in value just don’t look for any instant gains in the area.

    Springfield is quite pricey from what I have seen. Even a cottage would cost close to his maximum value if he purchased it complete rather than purchasing the land and having the house built on top. I believe I mentioned in another post though about how much of an upgrade it is going to receive in the future (rail plus the biggest shopping centre in brisbane, yes it is even supposed to make Garden City look small).

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    Hi,

    How about Collingwood Park, Redbank, Goodna, Gailes and Bellbird Park ? These are suburbs I have been currently looking at for the past 6 months. Just an Idea, Ive yet to put my money where my mouth is. [whistle] I saw Collingwood Park grow in prices, before my very eyes, as I sat on the side lines [weird]. I hope to have my first IP b4 April.

    It is the starting that stops most ppl.

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    I have a number of family members that live in Brisbane adn Logan suburbs.

    My opinion was that -mine alone.

    I still prefer Marsden to kingston and given the insurances as I said 4114 suburbs and others are higher rates due to problems. I can say the properties have sold well there.

    Now i base my own opinion on facts too! I own properties in those areas so I am not just speaking through my hat.

    I lived in Woodridge for a time and I would say, well not my cup of tea. My ex lives very close to that area, they love it, (no accounting for taste) – but we are great friends so I visit them too when I go.

    I visit logan and surrounds including coomera and places like hawthorne and galloways hill…lol where you say? I might live in NSW, but I travel about every two months up there, so I know my way around reasonably well..(better than most of the locals)

    I sold my home in woodridge in the early 80’s it hasnt changed I might add. Huge block. I hated the place!

    (currently)I bought in these areas because of rent demand and the growth potential and because could afford it there. I dont neceesarily like the areas. Well some I would keep away from and I mentioned that.

    so yes do your own research but DO take peoples opinions on board or why would you be asking?? Do due diligence and you will make up your own mind anyway, wont you?

    elves

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    Originally posted by CastleDreamer:

    Isn’t it funny how we all have opinions, as a resident of Logan for many years, and a community worker there, I would have said that crestmead was a better area than Marsden, opinions from us forumites are great, but don’t forget to do your own research SMARTMONEY

    Browns plains, boronia heights, crestmead, hillcrest ( I have had property in these areas, lived in these areas, and been quite happy – parents live in boronia heights)

    I live in Brisbane now, so am not specifically on the ground, but I do know that there are other forumites who live in this area – are you guys out there to give SMARTMONEY an opinion?

    Have you thought about Ipswich, rail line direct to brisvegas. Springfield, new city being built? Interested in North of Brisbane – D Bay for example?

    What about Inala – yeah I know it gets slagged, but it about the only place you can get a tidy home under 220 within 15ks of the CBD.

    Food for thought, good luck on home hunting SMARTMONEY.

    Cheers
    CD[rolleyesanim]

    CastleDreamer

    Which part of Logan do you recomend???

    Thank You

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    Quote:
    Originally posted by CastleDreamer:

    Isn’t it funny how we all have opinions, as a resident of Logan for many years, and a community worker there, I would have said that crestmead was a better area than Marsden, opinions from us forumites are great, but don’t forget to do your own research SMARTMONEY

    Browns plains, boronia heights, crestmead, hillcrest ( I have had property in these areas, lived in these areas, and been quite happy – parents live in boronia heights)

    I tend to agree with Castledreamer, i currently have my ppor in Woodridge and have also lived in Browns Plains and Regents Park, one of my daughters has lived in Marsden for a couple of years with no problems.They are all reasonabely good areas to buy in at your price range, just do your own research to pick the best areas of the suburb you choose, they all have their good and bad areas.4118 postcode areas also tend to attract a slightly higher insurance premium.

    Cheers
    Foston

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    The advantage of Woodridge is that it has a train line right through the middle of it. Very handy for rentals.

    Someone suggested Goodna, unfortunately unless you plan to catch a train and don’t mind the hoons and louts on the streets at night then it isn’t a great area to get in. Gailes is slightly better but the traffic from there into Brisbane is absolutely shocking. If you are in Brisbane and listing to the radio from 4:30pm-7pm at night take notice of the traffic reports, they will list Gailes almost every day as slow meaning you will be stuck in traffic… even Wacol and surrounding suburbs are affected by this traffic as it banks back past Centenary Highway.

    Not sure on Bellbird Park.

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    “I tend to agree with Castledreamer, i currently have my ppor in Woodridge .They are all reasonabely good areas to buy in at your price range, just do your own research to pick the best areas of the suburb you choose, they all have their good and bad areas”.
    Cheers
    Foston

    Sorry, I would have to agree with Elves !!!!

    I have lived in the Logan area up until recently since 1971.
    As for Woodridge – would’nt touch it with a barge pole, I work Woodridge and we have spent THOUSANDS on security, patrols and insurance our premises get damaged/or broken into at least once a week and beleive me that is NO exageration[thumbsdownanim.
    Crestmead isn’t too bad, as with parts of Browns Plains, Regents Park from what I hear is quite nice. If it’s not to far out (heading south) there is Bethania which has some decent places around your price range.
    Please note it is not my intention to offend anyone, (there are some really nice homes in these areas but it is a case of “nice house bad street/ area”) I just know these particular Logan areas like the back of my hand, I have seen them grow, for over the last 30 years or more from being all bushland – to what it is today !!!

    In the end it is up to you !!! You might find a place you really like and in your price range, so its your call, do what you feel is right for you !!! [smiling]

    Ginamarree

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    my family work as security guards in some areas from south to brisbane, and it can get scary.
    I have seen Woodridge in many areas become rather slummy, so now I will be most frank.

    Up until now I have tended to be a little guarded on commenting too negatively about an area. Unless you intend to purchase a number of properties, maybe side by side, or own the whole street…then you are going to have problems. you dont know what your chances are. Want your car stolen from the foot path? or vandalised? well I guess you are in a good area for those chances to occur. Ok so some will say no different than parking at parramatta, but gee look at the population or the fact one is city another a mere suburb…

    I know of one house that burnt to the ground, the tenant did that, that was dept housing, in amongst other residences. Scary huh? Though this was not in woddridge but an outer suburb.

    or maybe you like to hear about centrelink browns plains that had to call the firebrigade out because someone threatened staff, to set themselves alight. Staff had to be counselled. Maybe, the man whose home was also near burt to the ground in another suburb closeby, should be thanking neighbours for their efforts to wake him up, as a result of??? well go check the stories.

    I know this happens in many areas, lets just say that woodridge has more than its fair share of problems…

    Cheap? well now you know the reasons! low socio economic area, high crime rate, high unemployment…influx of…..people, all types, with their own problems, and havent we all got them!

    No offence to anyone. I now longer live there, didnt want to in the first place, and I can tell you it took no more than 6 months for me to move. That was enough.

    Well, now I will think twice about answering posts that ask the same question a little further down the track….do your own homework first then ask the questions. By this I mean it is easy enough to do a search of real estate and find the answer out yourself, try domain, or realestate.com.au

    cheers and goodluck, maybe you shouldnt believe all you read either!

    Elves

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    I am now just repeating things I have heard because I have never been to Inala or Logan. But from what I hear Logan is quite the hot spot these days. I remember talking to the mother of a friend. She wanted to buy in Logan a year or more back, you could buy for 50K then. people warned her away because – well it sounds like what you were saying about Inala. Stories of having to have concrete houses inside because the tenants would literally burn whatever wasn’t concrete for fuel or whatever. (hang on isn’t it warm up that way?)

    Anyway. So then the developers, who had the same vibe as my friend’s mum, go in there and build their 250K upwards apartments, which forces the price of the surrounding existing houses up.

    (this from multi-millionaire investor mates.)

    Suddenly it’s follow the leader, with people spotting the developments and seeing the place on the up, jumping on the bandwagon. Add to this the
    demand for queensland as a whole, and bada bing, Logan is hot.

    Could Inala go the same way? What is happening there? Is there any construction starting there, any signs of development? Could you go to council and find out?

    just thoughts.

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    Hi Mini

    “could Inala go that way?” It already has.

    Sizzling duck g’day
    Inala is a huge suburb, two to three times the size of other suburbs near by. Have you had a good look at the northern side of Inala north of the Civic centre? Major urban renewal by contractor on behalf of Housing Commission over past five years or so. Houses completely renovated and refurbished and released to market were 80K 18months ago, today 220K. Did I miss something, but I think even Inala has had some excellent growth in past year.

    Appreciate you live near Inala (so do I) without being nasty, but being frank since everyone seems to be doing so here, some nearby suburbs don’t have the best wrap for some particular areas, do you know the crime stats for Sherwood for example?

    Some pockets of Inala are lovely, decent people living decent ordinary lives. And their 50K houses are now worth 200K plus. Not bad for ‘scummy feral Inalarites’ (note my sarcasm here…..)

    Elves, I didn’t mean to offend your opinion, (if that’s what I did) I feel its important to put our opinions forward – but wanted to reiterate to SMARTMONEY that it can only be his decision alone to live somewhere – make his decision in an informed way – and not just based on opinions like ours.

    Interesting that several of us have got on here, and nailed or defended several areas. Each of us has had differing opinions, yet all of us state that we have lived in these areas – or have family in them.

    I admit that I have worked as a Paramedic in the Logan and Ipswich areas – I think I am qualified to comment on the dinginess of the area – I have seen it on a daily basis. BUT there are also lovely areas with good neighbourhoods. No different to anywhere else.

    As an investor I have had shocking tenants in blue chip suburbs, and salt of the earth tenants in ‘scummy’ (opinion only) suburbs.

    SMARTMONEY, I say it again. Good luck with your househunting. I hope you find a great place to live, and that you are happy where you are at.

    Cheers
    CD

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    Ipswich would get you around 180k….and East Ipswich (which is slightly better IMHO) you could get a house overlooking the river for low to mid 200’s – not many places in OZ where you can do that.Rent around 5% yield too.

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    Isn’t it sad how most people tend to dwell on the negative aspects of a particular area and do not think of or mention the positive aspects, we are all guilty of this at some time.As i have said before all suburbs have their good and bad areas, i must have been lucky to have only lived in the better areas of Woodridge, but i also have lived in the area on and off for over 30 years and have learnt to recognise the areas to stay away from.I have never been broken into or burgled in Woodridge, we built a house in Regents Park, moved in in 1997, got broken into and robbed within 6 months, it happens everywhere!
    Foston

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    I have found Bribie Island, Deception Bay, Burpengary to be excellent return , I was able to buy 3 in BI for under $140K, 6 in DB from between $100k to $134k, 1 in Burp for $98.
    i had held off DBay because I was led to believe that it was an undesirable area, however,I have not had any vacancies, minimal repairs,and excellent paying tenants. Another PI has purchased soley in Caboolture with excellent results all about 40 mins from Bne cbd. Good infrastructure and employment.

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    Hi Smartmoney
    One thing you have to remember when buying your first ppor is how quickly will it increase in value in order to release equity to enable you to buy an ip so it is crucial that you do your homework first before you purchase In my opinion i would prefer to 30 klm’s out of brisbane in an up and coming subub and only be 100 metres from the waterfront for under $220k you have to ask yourself which property is going to be worth more in 10,15,20 years time the beach side house or the the other house in logan
    25klm’s+ from brisbane

    Coreyj

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    [quote]Originally posted by foston:

    Isn’t it sad how most people tend to dwell on the negative aspects of a particular area and do not think of or mention the positive aspects, we are all guilty of this at some time.As i have said before all suburbs have their good and bad areas, i must have been lucky to have only lived in the better areas of Woodridge, but i also have lived in the area on and off for over 30 years and have learnt to recognise the areas to stay away from.I have never been broken into or burgled in Woodridge, we built a house in Regents Park, moved in in 1997, got broken into and robbed within 6 months, it happens everywhere!
    Foston
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    Hi,

    Foston, I agree break ins happen everywhere, this is a sad and costly fact of life, but on the other hand there are also areas that have a higher crime rate than others!
    You mentioned that you have recognised the areas to stay away from, I am curious to know what Logan areas you think fall into this catergory?

    Yes, it is sad that people seem to dwell on the negative aspects of an area, but when the negatives outweigh the positives, it’s hard not too!!
    One positive though – I am glad to hear that you have never been affected by break ins or robberies, while living in Woodridge[biggrin]

    In closing, I think we both have to agree to disagree about Woodridge, I am just voicing my opinion and you, yours.
    I hope you continue to be happy, because after all thats the thing that counts and your the one living there, not me – you gotta be happy[thumbsupanim]

    Cheers
    Ginamarree

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    Originally posted by CastleDreamer:

    Hi Mini

    “could Inala go that way?” It already has.

    Sizzling duck g’day
    Inala is a huge suburb, two to three times the size of other suburbs near by. Have you had a good look at the northern side of Inala north of the Civic centre? Major urban renewal by contractor on behalf of Housing Commission over past five years or so. Houses completely renovated and refurbished and released to market were 80K 18months ago, today 220K. Did I miss something, but I think even Inala has had some excellent growth in past year.

    Appreciate you live near Inala (so do I) without being nasty, but being frank since everyone seems to be doing so here, some nearby suburbs don’t have the best wrap for some particular areas, do you know the crime stats for Sherwood for example?

    I remember having to help my old man who is a fencing contractor, he had to do work for three front fences, two were fences demolished by stolen cars in the one night and the third was a nice old pensioner couple who just wanted to keep their place looking nice. I never said the houses were not nice or that all the people that live in them were scum, the base fact was that private builders, companies and so on have been buying, building and selling in there for the last couple of years and the gains are well below Brisbane average.

    On the crime-rate in sherwood, it shares a major similarity with woodridge: Excellent access to the rail, like Corinda which is the next suburb south (it never had a really good name either but prices there have risen markedly not due to refurbishments of houses but the creation of the cafe lifestyle). Still I’ve never known people from sherwood that had their cars burnt to the ground (happened to the receptionist at my previous job a few years back, she moved to the relative safety of Hillcrest).

    One thing to note, even before the refurbishment the northern part of inala had a lovely relaxed road network with the main road easily handling traffic and not bad on the eyes either… unfortunately even better for hooning.

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    Hi Ginamarree,
    I guess you’re right, we’ll just have to agree to disagree about Woodridge, i get a little carried away on this subject from time to time. I don’t think it would be appropriate for me to rubbish certain areas on this forum, it could just open up a can of worms.I would be quite happy to discuss this subject with you via PM if you wish. I’m curious, do you have any investment properties in this area, if you do how are they performing?.By the way, which area did you move to.?
    Cheers
    Foston

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